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Originally posted by: Jedi Master DJR
But don't you agree with the principle that the OT should be released, why not really? And who gives a rat's a@@ what the other signers think, isn't the principle of it the most important thing?
I personally like the Special Editions more. So I can live without the originals. Still even then I would sign if it wasn't for all the prequal bashing. Attack of the Clones is a masterpiece how dare people bash a movie that good.
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Originally posted by: Jedi Master DJR
But don't you agree with the principle that the OT should be released, why not really? And who gives a rat's a@@ what the other signers think, isn't the principle of it the most important thing?
I personally like the Special Editions more. So I can live without the originals. Still even then I would sign if it wasn't for all the prequal bashing. Attack of the Clones is a masterpiece how dare people bash a movie that good.
Well, people bashed A New Hope when it first came out and really classics many times are not appreciated in their own time. But even with all that and liking the SE more, you don't want to preserve the originals? What happens if you began to like the OT more in the future? Or if the UE that comes out sucks compared to the '97 SE? Wouldn't you want the SE on DVD if the UE sucked? Why not then the OT if you answered yes to the previous question?
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Originally posted by: jimbo
Didn't sign it myself but I did tell a friend about the website and he signed it. No I don't really care the secret is to not give a rats ass. I agree with some sentiments here I wouldn't mind Lucas releasing the originals. I just arguing against those who think the prequals are inferior to originals or think that Lucas owes them something.
couldn't you just sign it out of respect for your fellow posters? as a thank you for acknowledging your posts, replying to them and trying to argue even when we know that you don't share most of our views and that you react in a somewhat puerile way sometimes? that would be so nice.
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Originally posted by: Jedi Master DJR[/b
Well, people bashed A New Hope when it first came out and really classics many times are not appreciated in their own time. But even with all that and liking the SE more, you don't want to preserve the originals? What happens if you began to like the OT more in the future? Or if the UE that comes out sucks compared to the '97 SE? Wouldn't you want the SE on DVD if the UE sucked? Why not then the OT if you answered yes to the previous question?
Well first of all the Special Editions are coming out this year. The changes over the 1997 versions will be minor and can't possibly ruin the movies. I am confident in Lucas and his judement so I don't think the Ultimate Editions will suck either. If the Ultimate Editions do suck I will sign the petition but will live watching the SD-DVDs were getting in 2004.
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QuoteMakes you wonder how many people felt this way when the 97 SE version came out.
Originally posted by: jimbo
The changes over the 1997 versions will be minor and can't possibly ruin the movies.
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I personally like the Special Editions more. So I can live without the originals. Still even then I would sign if it wasn't for all the prequal bashing. Attack of the Clones is a masterpiece how dare people bash a movie that good.
jimbo you are such a fuckin idiot... you dont like the OT then fuckin leave the boards... cuz i dont think any of us will miss you...
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Originally posted by: Luke30
What kind of minor changes are being made to the star wars trilogy dvd's?
3 confirmed changes
1. The Emperor hologram has been replaced by with the correct actor to match with Return of the Jedi
2. The digital Jabba has been replaced with a much better digital Jabba.
3. The lightsaber effects have been corrected.
I can't see how anyone can complain about any of these changes. All three of them should have been made in 1997.
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It just wouldn't be the same scene.
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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
I really don't like the Emporer's hologram being changed.
It just wouldn't be the same scene.
It gives better continuality with Return of the Jedi and the prequals.
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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
I really don't like the Emporer's hologram being changed.
It just wouldn't be the same scene.
While I know what you're thinking, I actually thought it was great when I was smaller and I watched ESB, now that I compare just to how Vader looks from real to hologram in the same movie, ESB, and then compare to the Emperor, I must admit I personally am happy with the change.
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Originally posted by: Jedi Master DJR[/b
Well, people bashed A New Hope when it first came out and really classics many times are not appreciated in their own time. But even with all that and liking the SE more, you don't want to preserve the originals? What happens if you began to like the OT more in the future? Or if the UE that comes out sucks compared to the '97 SE? Wouldn't you want the SE on DVD if the UE sucked? Why not then the OT if you answered yes to the previous question?
Well first of all the Special Editions are coming out this year. The changes over the 1997 versions will be minor and can't possibly ruin the movies. I am confident in Lucas and his judement so I don't think the Ultimate Editions will suck either. If the Ultimate Editions do suck I will sign the petition but will live watching the SD-DVDs were getting in 2004.
So the basis of signing the petion is on which version is better then? What about historical preservation? If the originals don't matter, why does the Library of Congress keep them? Is it that bad to have both versions for the public on DVD like Terminator 2, Army of Darkness, ....? Should not GL keep money from all versions of Star Wars that he spent so much time making, versus losing ANY amount of money on OT bootlegs? Isn't the principle of GL having and received money from his film rights enough?
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Jedi Master DJR I do very much like the fact that you choose to argue your point in an intelligent manner.
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Unlike some assholes on this site who choose to nag and bitch.
wow!! what an intelligent way to argue... your a genious in contradicting yourself jimbo...
lol
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Originally posted by: jimbo
Jedi Master DJR I do very much like the fact that you choose to argue your point in an intelligent manner. Unlike some assholes on this site who choose to nag and bitch. DVDs resolution is only about 1.3x as high as laserdisc so a bootleg won't be that bad. Still there is a difference in Terminator 2 special Edition. That was done with seemless branching. This process could not be done on Star Wars without a huge loose in picture quailty to the point where it would look about as good as the bootlegs. They would have to be on separate discs. E.T is a better example. Thanks again for argueing your point intellegently though.
I wasn't arguing the technical specs with you, both my examples were of more traditional director's cuts, that is true. But you bringing up ET is a good point. Very close to release Speilberg said only the ET SE, but at the last minute included the OT. Do you think there was a significant benefit in releasing both versions? Since the picture and audio quality would go down with branching, like with the Beauty and the Beast DVD movie disc, would there be much harm in making the boxset where the cases for each of the movies held two discs(like the prequal cases) and then of course have a fourth case for the majority of the special features?
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Originally posted by: Luke30
What kind of minor changes are being made to the star wars trilogy dvd's?
3 confirmed changes
1. The Emperor hologram has been replaced by with the correct actor to match with Return of the Jedi
2. The digital Jabba has been replaced with a much better digital Jabba.
3. The lightsaber effects have been corrected.
I can't see how anyone can complain about any of these changes. All three of them should have been made in 1997.
Confirmed by who? Please post the url where these confirmations are. I am not doubting you! Just wanna see it.
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Originally posted by: Jedi Master DJR
I wasn't arguing the technical specs with you, both my examples were of more traditional director's cuts, that is true. But you bringing up ET is a good point. Very close to release Speilberg said only the ET SE, but at the last minute included the OT. Do you think there was a significant benefit in releasing both versions? Since the picture and audio quality would go down with branching, like with the Beauty and the Beast DVD movie disc, would there be much harm in making the boxset where the cases for each of the movies held two discs(like the prequal cases) and then of course have a fourth case for the majority of the special features?
First off, only including the 2002 version was Universal's decision, not Spielberg's; when he found out, he went over the video department's head to get both versions released in the regular edition.
Second, Beauty and the Beast is not seamlessly branched; there are actually 3 separate versions of the film contained on the DVD. That's why the quality is less than stellar. Seamless branching would not compromise quality, but given that John Williams created new musical cues for the SE, it could prove problematic in terms of continuity. I believe we discussed this before a long time ago, DJR.
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