SW Episode III - Reign of the Dark Side (* unfinished project *) — Page 27

This is EPIC!  Just have the lights flicker once or twice, then have them completely DOWN as soon as the saber ignites.  I still think the duel should be entirely in the dark until just Mace is left so that when they come back up, the audience can have a "holy crap" moment when they realize that Mace is on his own against a guy that somehow just took out three other Jedi in the dark.

Great idea even if I can't help fighting the urge to rename Palpatine Darth Brenda Russell.

Bingowings said:

Great idea even if I can't help fighting the urge to rename Palpatine Darth Brenda Russell.

Which is a great idea?

Palpatine Killing Jedi in the dark.

Bingowings said:

Palpatine Killing Jedi in the dark.

Oh.  Thanks. :D

DuTwan said:

Oh my god i hate photobucket atm, theres an image i wanna upload on here but cant grrr

Nevermind, ive using a different one lol.

Heres my thought on the dark fight scene.

Extremely quick design, took me few minutes to do to illustrate my point.

I think it should be even darker than that.  So all we see are the blades and maybe the barely-there hint of a face in the blade-light, but again, barely.  I think only seeing blades twirling in the dark, and the occasional stab glow, would be disorienting and confusing for the viewer, which is exactly how the Jedi would feel, until the lights come up and we realize that what we just saw and heard were the deaths of three freaking Jedi Masters.

That's amazing!!!  At first I wasn't sure if I liked the actual idea of Sidious transforming before the duel (I've always liked seeing the calm and reserved Palpatine we'd known for two and a half films letting loose), but this is AMAZING!

Also, perhaps as soon as Anakin runs in when Mace has Sidious cornered, Sidious' face can revert back to normal so Anakin doesn't see him as a Sith as much.  But as soon as Mace starts to piss Sidious off again ("You have lost"), the face could change back (especially if you're keeping the "No, no, you will die" line, which I've always liked as it's the moment, in the original version, when he lets out thousands of years of Sith frustration and hate in one line).

Thoughts?

Getting better all the time.

Excellent work, Bob. Wow..... Just wow.

This is incredible!

bobgarcia74 said:

All I can say is. It's getting there. FX still alittle rough, but it's taking good shape. Pay no attention to the audio at the end. I just tossed it there for fun, unless people think it would work 8)

Bed time.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1eYBqU26Eg

Awesome transition. :D It means, that there wouldn't be force lightning transition?

bobgarcia74 said:

Handzzz said:

bobgarcia74 said:

Awesome transition. :D It means, that there wouldn't be force lightning transition?

 The force lightning transition is gone. There will still be a lightning attack, but I will be reworking the hell out of it.

Yaaaay!!! :) I hate that scene. In the OT there is mystery around Palpatine, and like yoda's character GL copmletly destroys it. The Emperor was the most evil character, masters the force that no one else can, everybody fears him, and in the prequels he's nothing but a politician from any parlament from the Earth. Ridiculous.

Can't wait the final version of the film. :)

bobgarcia74 said:

Gonna try to get back to a once a week update as I keep editing. Stuff that I post will be things that I'll need opinions on. This week it's an edited scene of Anakin telling Mace that Palpatine is a Sith. The idea I went for is that less is more from Anakin. Just from his body language we can see his troubles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8peEH_zQ8Jc

 

The acting in this scene is very unconvincing, so I think you should remove as much as possible. May I suggest you remove everything starting from "Then our worst fears have been realized" till "If what you told me is true..."

(from 0:40 till 0:51 in this video)

So, basically, the dialog would go like this -

Anakin:"... He knows the ways of the force. He's been trained to use The Dark Side."

Mace:"Then our worst fears have been realized... If what you told me is true, you have gained my trust..."

Sorry about not commenting on the scene before but I needed a bit of time to think about it.

There are a few key problems with it both largely stemming from the way Mace Rimmer...sorry Windu is written.

He is always on Anakin's back from the first day they met and yet Anakin (or at least so we are led to believe) feels remorse for his part in killing him (in the same  'golly that was a bit naughty of me' way he does with Dooku but remorse none the less).

There was a missed opportunity here not only for allowing Mace to explain that his actions stemmed out of caution and care for Anakin, creating more conflict in Anakin because he suddenly sees a different side to this strict git who never made him feel welcome and really was holding him back (in all the ways he argues Obi-Wan was in AOTC even though we saw little evidence for this back then).

Instead Mace continues in that vein (making him sound even less sympathetic).

Anakin has just risked his life and his ambitions to give Windu a warning about Palpatine and all he does is say "If you aren't lying to me I will then trust you, until then I don't trust you enough to be around me".

I don't know Sam Jackson's films enough to know if it's possible to cobble together the sort of scene I'm thinking of here.

Essentially I would have Anakin tell Mace that Palpatine is the Sith Lord.

Have Mace thank him, tell him he HAS earned his trust and say something along the lines of up until then they didn't know who to trust and because of Skywalker's abilities they had to be careful around him up until that point as he was the only hope in defeating the Sith.

I would then have him say that as only the arresting Jedi and Skywalker know who Palpatine really is Skywalker should stay behind if things go wrong, to warn everybody else and not stick all their Jedi eggs in one basket (instead of I don't trust you to do the job properly and you may be lying).

That way Mace is putting himself in harms way to protect Skywalker and the Jedi as a whole rather than trying to steal Anakin's thunder and take him down another peg.

Anakin's dilemma then becomes one of "Do I do my duty to the order or try to protect my wife?" instead of "He's always holding me back, I'm the bleedin Chosen One, Mace doesn't trust me and Palpatine is probably right about the Jedi being just as bad but not as much fun".

The alternative is to drop the conflict altogether and have Skywalker knowingly drop Mace right into a trap (and be a bit pissed off that Mace isn't entirely falling for it).

When Mace does what he does it could be the vindication of everything Palpatine has said (because he is telling the truth).

In which case the scene needs to be edited to be if anything more snarky...Anakin is playing Iago here (giving Palpatine a bit of a rest) and creating a crucible to iron out the true nature of his warring mentors.

His scene in the council chamber would then become (instead of a "shall I shan't I?" scene) an epiphany (the Jedi aren't good after all, everyone is just as screwed up but at least Palpatine is offering me something I need).