adywan said:

hairy_hen said:

The grappling hook thing is ridiculous. All you have to do to confirm that it is Apocryphal of the worst kind is listen to the music cue for this scene. The way it is composed fits the film perfectly--there is no break or edit anywhere that would indicate it had been trimmed to fit a shortened version of the scene. There are other places in the film where the music is edited to accommodate picture changes, and listening to them as compared to the score alone the cuts can be spotted easily enough, but the chasm scene never needed to be subjected to this.

One of the most intelligent answers that quashes the "grappling hook" myth once and for all. There is no place it would fit. John Williams writes the score to fit the emotions and pacing that is on the screen. There is no section prior to the grappling hook that would match a complete miss by luke. It never happened, it's just a false memory, same with people swearing they saw the anchorhead scenes in the movie at its release.

I don't believe that quashes anything once and for all.

Trying to dig up my copy of the novelization. It would be nice if it turned out I hadn't gotten it until perhaps some second reprinting with a date from the following year or something. I have no idea (if they even did that for one).

I thought Lucas once said something about to not want to go with a missed toss in the end because he wanted it to not potentially appear to have been random luck the second time. I'm very fuzzy on this part though.

I'm going to see if I can at least eventually dig up computer files I wrote about SW stuff from the late 80's and see exactly what I wrote about the whole grappling hook thing back then, which would at least be a lot fresher than now.

My vague recollection is that years ago the second toss didn't seem to be too controversial but the Biggs stuff always had been looked at with doubt.