Help Wanted: 'The Wheeler Dealers' (1963) - Need capper for TCM...

According to: http://www.tcm.com/thismonth/article.jsp?cid=24084&mainArticleId=99268

The Wheeler Dealers (1963) will be aired Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:00 AM on Turner Classics.
It stars James Garner and Lee Remick.

This movie isn’t on DVD and it’s one of my all-time-not-on-DVD-favorite-films.

I’d love to get this in the highest quality anyone can rip. HD, DVD, raw capture, whatever…

Can anyone help out?

I will look into this DoctorM, but Im not sure if I get TCM, but I will report back when I find out

CompMovieGuy said:

I will look into this DoctorM, but Im not sure if I get TCM, but I will report back when I find out

That would be awesome.  I have a VHS recording from cable TV from about 20 years ago and a divx that is artifact ridden, low resolution, and out of sync.

Well I looked and I do get TCM, but it is only the SD channel, I do not have its HD counterpart

I will keep an eye out and when it airs, Ill try to cap it, and if its not encrypted, Ill send the files your way

Please just remind me a few days before it airs by bumping this thread so I dont forget

Edit: Is Turner Classics and Turner Classic Movies different channels? Because I get TCM, and I just did a search on my guide and I dont see that movie coming up

I dunno if there are 2 different Turner channels.  I don't get any of them.

But to be fair, the broadcast is more than 3 weeks away, so it might not me listed on some guides yet.

As far as SD, I was afraid that might be the case, but I believe they've been showing it letterboxed.

What kind of format are you able to cap/send?

If it is TCM and it does actually air on that date and its not encrypted, Ill send you a raw cap

digitalfreaknyc said:

I have the HD version and would be happy to cap it for you.  What can you accept?  I can make a blu-ray for you.

Well that sounds awesome... but I don't have a BluRay player yet.  Any chance you could post or send me the raw capture?

From that I could make a DVD and have access to the originals for BD later, as needed.

Since that can be a serious undertaking an HD2DVD conversion would be fine.

If you really prefer to do the BD thing, go for it, I'll convert it to DVD from there.

I do have a special request no matter how you go.  If you re-encode, please rip any English subtitles or closed captioning.

My settop DVD recorder preserves the CCs in the VOBs (and you can use ccextractor to convert it to SRT).  My old one did also.

I think ccextractor is capable of pulling the subs out of TSes too.

I've extracted CC from TS streams just fine with CCExtractor GUI.

It's still embedded in the video the same way as standard def video.  The process isn't very difficult.

digitalfreaknyc said:

Doctor M said:

I've extracted CC from TS streams just fine with CCExtractor GUI.

It's still embedded in the video the same way as standard def video.  The process isn't very difficult.

 But how were those TS streams capped?  The Hauppauge re-encodes. This isn't capturing the original stream (which is encoded and impossible).

Hauppauge re-encodes?  Hmm.  I have no idea if that will destroy the line 21 captions or not.  DVR typically don't, but PC encoding usually does.

Anyone know?  (Of course this is assuming there is even CC on the broadcast to start with).

If hes using the Hauppauge then he wont get the CC unless its being displayed (hard coded) on the video stream at the time hes using the device.

You would need to raw capture the video in order to get the CC stream as it is part of the PIDs, the Hauppauge doesnt work this way, its not a "direct stream" capture device, its a "on the fly" re-encoding device.

CompMovieGuy said:

If hes using the Hauppauge then he wont get the CC unless its being displayed (hard coded) on the video stream at the time hes using the device.

You would need to raw capture the video in order to get the CC stream as it is part of the PIDs, the Hauppauge doesnt work this way, its not a "direct stream" capture device, its a "on the fly" re-encoding device.

Is it on a PID?  I thought it was embedded in the mpeg video, just like analog TV.

I have a standalone DVR that re-encodes all video (even resize HD channels to SD) without damaging the line 21 captions.

That's funny, my stick is a Hauppauge and I thought for sure I've gotten CCs off it when dropping TSes in MPlayer...

digitalfreaknyc said:

Just set the DVR for it ;)

Cool.

It was in SD

I recorded it as well, but it is 5C'd, so I deleted it

Also, it looked like poop

What is 5C'd mean?