The Cutter said:
rpvee said:
Too many quick cuts (...) too much isn't seen (...)the execution is just not as good as it should be.
Too much isn't seen ? but it's so ugly ! what can we do ?
There are "jumpy cut" in my part 3 but I think there is a good flow here.
Maybe You are really too much used with the original cut. You did not take the time to "digest" the new rhythm. Of course everything go faster, I cut a lot of things, so inevitably you feel a lack...but I think you just focus on it, and not on the essential :
Sidious is no more a gay, the Jedi are no more stupid bitches, no more stupids dialogues and too long hesitations (etc...) and there is now intensity when Sidious unleashed the dark side.
I'm really interested to know what you think about the original sequence. if you find my work "weak", what words do you use to qualify the work of Lucas and his team on this ?
There are so few good things in the original sequence that it was really a challenge. For you, my execution is weak...no problem, but what do you suggest ? keeping exactly the same ideas and the same content I selected, show me the way to a "strong execution" !
I worked so long on this sequence, I tried so many things... I can say, without pretension, that it will be hard to do a better cut. It's not a perfect cut of course...but it respects Star Wars, it do not destroy everything...
First of all, as far as we know, Sidious was never "gay". Don't use that word that way, and also words like "bitch" and what-not. If you want your edit to be taken seriously, drop the high school vocabulary.
Now, obviously the original sequence is weak in many ways, mainly because of what you stated. But your solution seems to be to simply cut out all of the bad parts and then moves scenes around between the cuts to try to make them flow. But, for example, Mace tells Anakin to stay, and then literally in the next shot he's gone and taking off. I know you said that it's an editing technique (your exact words being "in a cut, all the sequences do not systematically occur in real time"), but this kind of editing only works in certain ways. For example, the quick cuts during the twenty-second Mace/Palpatine duel where they move all around the room - it works there because it is a fast and intense scene. When it's a guy just leaving somewhere, it's fast and abrupt and it doesn't work or make any sense - the technique doesn't carry over in such a calm scene.
And then there are some cuts that really just do not work. For example, Mace kicking Palpatine. In one cut, Mace goes from one position to suddenly being able to kick Palpatine, and then a WAY to quick cut over to Anakin.
You really, I guess, just need to work on your sense of timing. A lot of the cuts are just really, really rough.