Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released) — Page 97

Is any new dialogue for Dooku necessary? I thought MTHaslett's idea to simply cut the dialogue down to imply that Qui-gon *did* know about the corruption was enough...plus, we don't want to know tip our hand too soon revealing Dooku's playing both sides of the field. I suppose something for the conversation with Sidious could be added...maybe implying Dooku's being complicit in Qui-gon's assassination...it'd be nice to have something for Sidious to add, perhaps calling Qui-gon naive/foolish whatever....

Jar Jar: I vote English!

As for Fett, I admit I was one of those jarred by the name change, though I also admit to liking the ring of the name "Marcus Fett." After 8 years (insert "where does the time fly?" here) I've become too accustomed to "Jango," and it served more of a distraction and dissonance in my poor brain..."wait...no, that's Jango!..." I hesitate to call the change "unnecessary," cause, well...this is just the nature inherent of the craft! But, in my most humble of opinions, it ought to be reverted to Jango Fett.  

As a side note, since Lama-Su is being redubbed, I'll take this opportunity to ask how you like the name "Marcus Fett" as opposed to "Jango Fett." I remember a couple of people saying that it was jarring, and too different because they knew the character from AOTC. How about Jacob Fett? I just don't like the sound of "Jango"...

Boba Fett. Cloning issues aside, it is common on the real world for father and son to share the same name.

Have you been given any lines to record?

Trooperman said:

The new line from Dooku was meant to illustrate that Qui-Gon really did order the clones, correct? This is a great change but it will require going through Episode I audio tracks to find all the takes of Obi-Wan saying "Qui-Gon", and dub them in over "Syphodias" everywhere the name comes up.

We are changing Qui-Gon's name to Sifo-dyas?

Dooku: "Ten years have revealed Qui-gon's sacrifice to be not made in vain: war has begun."

**OPTIONAL**

Sidious: "Qui-gon Jinn was an idealistic fool. His death was a necessary loss; he still served our purpose in the end. You have done well."

**

...Maybe something like that?

Good point! Hmmmm....How 'bout along the lines of:

"My unwitting slain apprentice's misplaced intentions have availed us, Master: Qui-gon Jinn's army is ready. Darkness gathers. War has begun"

63 INT. CORUSCANT, SECRET LANDING PLATFORM – DAWN 163

The ramp lowers. COUNT DOOKU emerges and walks to where the hooded figure of DARTH SIDIOUS stands waiting. COUNT DOOKU bows.

COUNT DOOKU

The Force is with us, my Master.

DARTH SIDIOUS

Welcome home, Lord Tyranus. You have done well.

COUNT DOOKU

I bring you good news, my Lord. The war has begun.

DARTH SIDIOUS

Excellent.

(smiling)

Everything is going as planned.

I need a reminder of how much time we have to work with.  Would the additions we are proposing fit the scene as it stands now?

Yeah, a little too verbose, there...I guess I was trying to imply Qui-gon was a participant with Dooku, not knowing Dooku was in league with the Sith, but in the end (up to that point, at least) became their unwitting servant.

I like Dooku calling it a victory; it contrasts with Obi-wan (and Yoda being a bit of a pedant) marking it a *Jedi* victory...I also like the sound of "it was a master stroke to play upon his idealism"...this is the time to verify Dooku as a bad guy; I imagine a mocking tone while referencing his apprentice's contributions and death. 

For inspiration in the area of Grevious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1IVhMp2WPk

I always loved the way the original Clone Wars presented him as an absolute badass Jedi killing machine, more of a monster or weapon than the chatty moustache-twirling villain he is in EpIII

Trooperman said : I'll take this opportunity to ask how you like the name "Marcus Fett" as opposed to "Jango Fett." I remember a couple of people saying that it was jarring, and too different because they knew the character from AOTC. How about Jacob Fett? I just don't like the sound of "Jango"...

Marcus, Jacob?

Please tell me you are having a laugh, you are aren't you?

Sid Christ.

If you can't make Jango into Boba and lose the boy Boba couldn't you just imagine an extra D in the current name?

It seems like ages ago we had the Marcus Fett discussion.

Couldn't we just call him "Fett"?

I've never had a problem with the name Jango - a lot of prequel names, yes, but not Jango. I just assumed it was George's reference to Django, the spaghetti western character. I was pretty surprised when I watched SotDS that his name was changed to Marcus.

Personally, were it up to me, I'd change back to Jango. But, obviously it's not.

MTHaslett said:

...or in other words, you'd vote to have Trooperman keep it "Jango"? 

What's with all the judgment? Can we see your edit of ep2 somewhere?

I imagine if Trooperman didn't want any comments he would just make his alterations and let us see the final result.

The names suggested sound too 'everyday' while I understand that Ben and Luke provided a precedent, those were sympathetic characters (well Ben was until he the PT came out). The majority of the characters (especially the darker ones) have slightly other-timely or other-worldly names (just not silly names like Padme or Dooku).

If Jango was called Tjango (for example) it would have sounded almost the same but looked less like "By Jingo" or "Jenga" or "Jingle" (it could have been worse George could have called him Bojangle Fett).

In the Star Wars universe the way a name looks is almost as important as the sound.

Adding a blunt letter at the beginning makes the name look more exotic and sound a little culturally shifted but also makes things easier to sync up than changing the whole name.

I can't really see a huge benefit in changing it from Jango to Django myself. But I'm of the camp that believes another Fett was pointless anyway. :)

Oh me too.

But if there has to be two of them I'm of the opinion that giving the other one a commonly heard name compounds the problem.

I prefer Marcus to Jango. I've always thought Jango sounds stupid. Though ideally I'd have him just referred to as Fett.

Trooperman, further to our PMs, do you know of anyone in the UK with the workprint who I could make arrangements with? =)

Yeah, better if he just says "Fett."

Or one could go all ESB and do it as "bounty hunter" throughout.