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Nanner Split said:
Am I the only PC gamer in this thread?
If I was still a gamer, it would probably be on PC. I still drag out a few oldies to play every once in a while.
You can never go home again, but i guess you can shop there.
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TV's Frink said:
I still drag out a few oldies to play every once in a while.
eww.....
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^Louie approves...
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So does my boss - hes just a happy man when his pet is with him....
You can never go home again, but i guess you can shop there.
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cutnshut said:
So does my boss - hes just a happy man when his pet is with him....
Your boss hates hotlinking?
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Hotrod:
I take it I'm the only twat here with a PS3 then????
I have one. I own 2 disc games for it (Resistance & LBP) and a couple PSN games: Flow, Flower, Trine. I have borrowed a couple games for it though. I bought it to knock out the exclusives that I wanted to play, but mostly to play blu ray. And I'm hoping it makes good on the whole 3D blu ray promise. It had better.
Nanner:Am I the only PC gamer in this thread? I take it nobody here is into Team Fortress 2?
I have a PC or 7. None of them are in "gaming shape", unless you count minesweeper or Farmland. I've tried TF2 on 360 a couple times... but there aren't many people playing it, and I think I'd just spend my time being jealous that the 360 doesn't have all of the updates that the PC version does.
cutnshut:Star Wars: Empire at War + expansion
I bought this on DVD 6 months ago or so... I kinda like it, but I've only played it a couple times. I totally got my butt handed to me when I played the 2nd level or something because I didn't realize I had to mass forces to the planet before I started the battle. Then I thought that perhaps it was too easy since I could just Powell doctrine the enemy into oblivion.
Anyways, I'm not answering your quest because I don't know the answer.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
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xhonzi said:
...unless you count minesweeper...
I knew that eventually someone would bring up a game I've played!
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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000B9RI14/ref=nosim/cheapassgam08-20
1600 pts for $16.54. Buy 2 and get Free shipping. It's not %50 off, but it's something.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
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Semi-related - you know what pisses me off to no end? Shipping charges on gift cards.
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These are barely gift cards, they are pieces of cardboard with a code printed on it. However, if you want to get the code only, they are NOT on sale.
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That's super lame.
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Well, they do have to ship them. I mean, to get the cardboard in your hands. I wish the codes through e-mail were on sale too... that's just super slick.
Also, don't forget it's Moneky Island 2: SE day. It's a whole gig vs. half a gig for the first game. Lots of 360 avatar items for MI2 as well.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
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xhonzi said:
Well, they do have to ship them. I mean, to get the cardboard in your hands. I wish the codes through e-mail were on sale too... that's just super slick.
That's my point - there is no need to ship a code. It's the same with gift cards, as it's just a number. Oh sure, if you *want* a pretty card with a picture of Santa carrying a Best Buy bag, I totally get charging for shipping. But you should always have the option of doing an electronic code only, and some places don't do it that way.
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Gaffer Tape said:
TV's Frink said:
C3PX said:
Yeah, I can kind of see you being the type who easily becomes addicted to things.
5406 posts in less than a year is not an addiction!!!
*sob*
(5407 now...)
What the hell?! I'd never bothered to notice your post count before! At this rate, you'll surpass my carefully-accumulated-over-five-years post count in just a few more months! THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED!!!
I just realized Ric Olie has a ton of posts...
...be right back...
...1006 posts?
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So, let me get this straight. I've been here for just shy of six years. You've been here less than one, and you already have more than twice as many posts as me?!
I ... I just don't know what to say ...
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Yeah, I'm not sure what to say either. I think I need to stop posting. Post 5458 will be my last post ever...
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DAMMIT!!!
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Say you fail. Say you're an underachiever. Say you're lazy!
There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
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So, I finished my primary play through of Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. I will provide a spoiler free section, a light spoiler section, and a full spoiler section.
Spoiler free:
This game came out in 1997, so right there it should tell you a few things:
1. I shouldn't have to worry about spoilers.
2. It's old.
3. It's ugly.
4. It shouldn't be competitive with a modern game.
But it is.
I think that's one of the highest forms of praise that can be offered to an old game: It's so compelling, that regardless of how 2D or ugly it might be, the gameplay can still capture your attention and imagination in such a way that you put aside the latest games that cost $Millions to produce and $60 to buy...
I had ignored the Castlevania series ever since I played 10 minutes of the first one on my cousin's NES. I was 10- the Medieval setting didn't interest me and I found it to be too hard to be fun. But I did love Metroid. I still love Metroid. When I first saw pics of the newish game Shadow Complex, I thought: meh. Then someone said the magic words: It's like Metroid. Then I was told it was also like Castlevania in the same way. This made me cock my head to the side and go, 'huh'? Because the Castlevania I played was in no way similar to Metroid. And that's because I hadn't played Symphony of the Night. Yet. After finishing Shadow Complex, I downloaded the C:SotN demo on Xbox Live. I played the first 10 minutes or so and still thought... hmm... I guess I still don't like it. Then I kept hearing the game get referenced and then it went on sale for half off, so I put my 400 MS points on the line and decided to add it to my collection, potentially to go unplayed. I played an hour here and there, but after I finished Assassin's Creed II- I don't know what happened, but I found myself totally engrossed into it. It's the "open world" exploration that I love from Metroid, and the "now that I have the double jump ability, what can I go back and go that I couldn't do before?" mechanic. But then there was something else that really got me. It's a minor spoiler, and a look at the Xbox Achievements will spoil this surprise as well, but I will enclose it in mild spoiler tags:
In conclusion, it's amazing to me how well the gameplay has resisted the effects of time. The only other game I can think of that has done this this well is Flashback. If you are a Metroid fan, or a fan of open world, exploration, secret item unlockation, you definitely should stop here and go play the game. It's on XBLA and I think PSN as well. Push comes to shove, I'm sure you can emulate one of the other systems it's been on.
Mild Spoilers:
It's possible to "win" the game without "winning" it. Whenever you load a saved game, it tells you what percentage of the castle you have explored. When you're approaching 80 or 90%, you have found Dracula's throne room and, if you feel inclined, you can go there, defeat the final boss, get your pat on the back, and watch the ending credits. THE END. However, if you continue to explore the castle to 100%, you'll obtain an item that will so fundamentally change the fight with the final boss... Well, let's just say that there's another castle to explore and that when I finally beat the game and the final, final boss... I had explored 200.6 percent of Dracula's castle. And this is what I wanted to focus on. In the modern era of videogames, much ado has been made about "morality." Sometimes you get to choose to play a good guy or a bad guy. Sometimes you're a guy and you get to decide to be good or bad. Sometimes you get to decide if you want to be selfish or altruistic. But the "morality" of C:SotN seemed really fresh to me. Instead of a question bluntly put to the player: Are you good or bad? It was more of a long con that asked "How responsible are you?" You are there to prevent the resurrection of Dracula. There are vague hints (that don't come across as hints) that something odd is going on in the castle and if you ignore those things, or discount them, then you head to the throne room and kill a boss, which accomplishes your main goal of preventing the rise of Dracula, but it doesn't bring the greatest brand of justice to the characters in the game. However, if you continue to search the castle- to investigate the mystery which is lightly laid in, you are rewarded with a game-changing artifact extends the game significantly and ultimately gives the greatest satisfactory ending to the game. To give you some idea of what you're missing if you don't play "the last half of the game", the strongest weapons and swords, appx half of the life and ammo upgrades, the final-final boss, and 5 or 6 macro bosses, and about a third of the total enemy types.
I found this to be awesome, and quite unique, despite the fact that I encountered the "short" ending first. I had read the achievements, so I knew I was supposed to accomplish more in the game than I had... but I was unsure of how to do it. So I was a little frustrated, but I knew there were a few corners of the map I had yet to explore. I returned to them and, with a little help from a full map I found online, was able to fully explore the first castle and then move on to the second. While the 2nd 100% is theoretically as much "content" as the first, there is a lot less repetitive exploration (since you already have the "double jump ability", etc.) and so it goes by much quicker.
Full Spoilers:
Richter, the "hero" of the opening segment (which is, apparently, the finale of the previous game) becomes the unwilling villain of the first half of the game. Only by obtaining the object referenced above, do you see that he is possessed and not in control of his actions. When you defeat him in this way, you free him from his possession instead of killing him the way you would have before. He thanks you and reveals the true villain in another castle visible from the topmost tower of the current castle. This other castle is actually the first castle, but rotated 180 degrees so that everything is upside down. A world you've been used to navigating one way is now a new challenge. As the stairs in a tall room are now found on the ceiling, getting from one level to the next can be a bit difficult. And, of course, the enemies are also a lot tougher, and the whole thing is familiar, yet unique. Perhaps I should have been more suspicious when Dracula wasn't the final boss in the "short" game. But, from a certain point of view, Richter was a worthy villain and a worthy boss for the finale to a 10 hour game. I'm glad that I found the very strong 3rd act to the game and the real fnale, but I could have been convinced that beating Richter was the actual end to the game.
At this point in time, since I have rescued Richter from his possession, I am able to restart the game and play as him. Richter is a completely different character than Alucard. He doesn't use objects found in the game, he can't change weapons, he is much weaker and he can't double jump (!!!). So playing the game as Richter is much more like the "classic" Castlevania formula: A traditional side-scroller. However, Richter must still navigate the castle and defeat the final boss. The castle is still laid out like an open world, but Richter should beat the most direct path from A->B->C because there is no advantage to exploring. Having the benefit of exploring the castle twice, you should have some idea of how to do this... But again you are navigating the familiar terrain, but under completely new rules, so it's a different challenge. I'm only about 10-15 minutes into this new mode, but I don't think it lasts more than an hour or two.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
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^That was too long and on-topic IMUHO*
Gaffer Tape said:
Say you fail. Say you're an underachiever. Say you're lazy!
Fail? Sure.
Underachiever and lazy? I don't see how...
...oh, you meant in the context of all things not OT.com. Well played, sir/madam, well played.
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xhonzi said:
Full Spoilers:Richter, the "hero" of the opening segment (which is, apparently, the finale of the previous game) becomes the unwilling villain of the first half of the game. Only by obtaining the object referenced above, do you see that he is possessed and not in control of his actions. When you defeat him in this way, you free him from his possession--
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TV's Frink said:
^That was too long and on-topic IMUHO*
It would appear that you read it all anyways.
Or is that why you've said that it's too long?
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
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I read it after I posted, because "Castlevania" caught my eye. It's a rather intriguing concept, actually.
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Did you play Castlevania back in the day, or why did it catch your eye?
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
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xhonzi said:
Did you play Castlevania back in the day...
Yes, although not enough to get terribly far. My buddy had a Nintendo (I never did) and we mostly played sports games but dabbled in side scrollers (Castlevania, Metroid, Rambo III are the ones I remember off the top of my head).
xhonzi said:
...or why did it catch your eye?
See above. ;-)
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TV's Frink said:
Gaffer Tape said:
Say you fail. Say you're an underachiever. Say you're lazy!
Fail? Sure.
Underachiever and lazy? I don't see how...
...oh, you meant in the context of all things not OT.com. Well played, sir/madam, well played.
Actually, that was referring to ChainsawAsh. You just got in the way...
There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.