I am in agreement. Even you, and your neighbor, are coming from Western thought. But the stuff of which you speak is not. We are touching two angles into one universal problem (or perhaps, more likely, a cluster of unique but related problems). While I pick on Americans mostly because I am one; and those are the ones I have worked with and been frustrated by the most. These issues are by no means limited to them, I just find them (or us, since I am one) to be very proud champions of the problem.