1st IMPORTANCE INFO: spread it !!!... + "We" don't want to hear a damn thing - thread ! — Page 3

Remember, I said "potential harm."  We do not yet know the damage.

http://www.epa.gov/oem/docs/oil/fss/fss02/ricepresent.pdf

do you think it will directly result in the deaths of over 3000 people?   I doubt it.    

Warbler said:

I don't think the old spill will be that bad.... 

 The video is not that much about oil, but about what comes out with it. Please, watch and listen until the end.

I did, I find the video skeptical.   I felt like I was watching Glen Beck telling the world that Obama was going to destroy American and turn it into the new Soviet Union.   When a creditable news organizations backs that video up, then I'll believe it. 

Yep!  Just like xhonzi's next 3000 posts will have no impact.

Nope, no wink in sight.

Warbler said:

I did, I find the video skeptical.   I felt like I was watching Glen Beck telling the world that Obama was going to destroy American and turn it into the new Soviet Union.   When a creditable news organizations backs that video up, then I'll believe it. 

You have a 1st hand info straight from the source. If it was not the case, there would have been a big deny about this I surmise...

Just please - and I say "please" for your sake - just allow yourself doubts sometimes, cause having read you many times before over the year I must say I always got the feeling to read the most common newspapers through your posts. :/ I mean: you do seem to have an opinion and explanations for Everything... Bravo, cause I can't, and I don't know what to think actually. I just don't realize the mess it is !

But if you prefer: if all this story is true, 9/11 & Katrina will be a detail next to that, from a "scale" p.o.v. That's what we're saying here.

I think everyone really interested and sincerely wondering about this won't post in this bubble anyway. Let's save it for something more constructive.

C3PX said:

Warbler said:

When a creditable news organizations backs that video up, then I'll believe it. 

Bloody hell man, "creditable news organization"? There is no such thing! Every news organization out there is some sort of propaganda or another. It is foolish to mistake widely accepted propaganda as truth based only on the fact that it is widely accepted.

* Quoted for pleasure*

xhonzi said:

TV's Frink said:

Yep!  Just like xhonzi's next 3000 posts will have no impact.

Nope, no wink in sight.

 

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xhonzi said:

<o> - TIE Fighter.

 (!) - I let you guess. (Edit: no one is targeted of course)

C3PX said:

Oh for Pete's sake, Warb. Can we get over this over sensitive kick you have been on?

its easy say, hard to do.  but I'll try.

C3PX said:

Everytime someone offers an opinion you disagree with you get offended.

everytime? excuse me for taking an exception to:

C3PX said: A few less people isn't going to harm anything.

you don't honestly think that statement could be regarded as offensive?  If I had a friend or family member that died in 911 or Katrina,  I'd know I'd be offended by such a statement.  

C3PX said:

I don't mean it sarcastically. You, me, every member of this board, those that died in Pompeii, those that died in Katrina, none of us are that significant when looking at the broad spectrum. A thousand years from now my life and everything I accomplish in it won't amount to a hill of beans. Same goes for those who died in Katrina or those earthquakes. Their loss doesn't harm anything. It doesn't change the course of history, and at the end of the day they are of very little significance. There are a lot of humans on this planet, the loss of a large quantity of them is nothing more than a historical statistic. Sure, it is a tragedy to their families and those who knew them, but beyond that they matter very little all in all.

the people that died on 911 mattered to more than just the families and those who knew them, it was a Nationally shared tragedy.   I don't have to know a person/people to view their death(s) as tragic. 

C3PX said:

C3PX said: Losing your home sucks and all, I wouldn't like it, but in the end, it doesn't really matter,

it matters to the person/people that lost their home(s).

Sure, but we are talking world wide disasters here, buddy. We are not talking about looking through the microscope at the lives of each individual, we are talking about a global perspective over large periods of time.

I think 911 had major repercussions that will be felt years from know.  

Take a look at the assassination of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria.  His assassination led to WWI.   The end of WW1 created the conditions that led to WWII.  Also WWI, added to the conditions in Russia that led to the creations of the Soviet Union there.  The end of WWII,  quickly led to the cold war.   We are still feeling the effects of the cold war today.   Our actions in the cold war created the conditions in the mideast and Afghanistan that led to the creations of Alqaida and other terroristic  organizations.   One could possibly argue that without the assassination of the Archduke, there'd be no 911.      

I think 911 will have alot more future repercussions than the assassination of the Archduke. 

C3PX said:

C3PX said:Notice how you listed recent events? 

I listed recent events because A.B.C.  tried to argue the oil disaster was the worst of the 21st century.   I tried to argue that there were others that were worse.  Any disaster in the 21 century would a recent one cause the century's is only 10 years old.   Pompei has nothing to do with this cause it didn't happen in the 21st century.  

No, it does. Because when we talk about the worst disaster of the 21st century, we are talking about its long term historical effect.

and I fail to see how the long term effect of the oil spill will be worse than 911.

C3PX said:

 

C3PX said:

I have a feeling this whole oil incident could be equated more closely to Nero's alleged burning of Rome in the long run. A historical shooting in the foot with severe long term repercussions.

I disagree, I think most people look at the burning of Rome with intrigue, like they do with Pompei.   

Guess my point was missed. I wasn't trying to say that people don't look at the burning of Rome with intrigue, they sure do. But it had far more long term repercussions in history than Pompeii did.

it did? how so?    Rome was rebuilt.  Pompeii was lost for good.   Who knows what contributions the people of Pompeii and their future generations would have made to history?  

C3PX said:

Warbler said:

When a creditable news organizations backs that video up, then I'll believe it. 

Bloody hell man, "creditable news organization"? There is no such thing!

if that's true, than neither is the video, creditable.    Please remember this is only your and other conservatives' opinion of news organizations. 

C3PX said:

Every news organization out there is some sort of propaganda or another. It is foolish to mistake widely accepted propaganda as truth based only on the fact that it is widely accepted.

so where do you get your news from?   

A B C said:

Warbler said:

I did, I find the video skeptical.   I felt like I was watching Glen Beck telling the world that Obama was going to destroy American and turn it into the new Soviet Union.   When a creditable news organizations backs that video up, then I'll believe it. 

You have a 1st hand info straight from the source. If it was not the case, there would have been a big deny about this I surmise...

if it were the case,  I'd think it would be the leading story all the national news.   Funny how I haven't seen this video show up on ABC, CNN, NBC, CBS, or Fox. 

A B C said:

Just please - and I say "please" for your sake - just allow yourself doubts

I do,  that is why I DOUBT the authenticity of your video. 

A B C said:

sometimes, cause having read you many times before over the year I must say I always got the feeling to read the most common newspapers through your posts. :/

did you mean  "I always got the feeling you read the most common newspapers through your posts."   if you consider the Philadelphia Inquirer and the Camden County Courier Post common newspapers, I guess I do?  What is wrong with reading these papers?  I also watch the local and  national news.  I mostly watch NBC for the national news(but not MSNBC).   I also read news stories online.   

I'm curious what wonderful news source I'm supposed to using.   

A B C said:

I mean: you do seem to have an opinion and explanations for Everything...

and others on here don't?

A B C said:

Bravo, cause I can't, and I don't know what to think actually. I just don't realize the mess it is !

but you seem to think those video do. 

A B C said:

But if you prefer: if all this story is true, 9/11 & Katrina will be a detail next to that, from a "scale" p.o.v. That's what we're saying here.

I suppose I can agree to that, IF the videos are true.

A B C said:

I think everyone really interested and sincerely wondering about this won't post in this bubble anyway. Let's save it for something more constructive.

no one is stopping anyone from posting here.  I definitely have no intention of  stopping anyone from post here.  

C3PX said:

I think it is kind of ridiculous to get into one of our political-debate-esque quote wars here.

 I've finished dealing with people of this kind a long time ago (In this galaxy though).

I sorry I offended everyone.  I'll stop posting here.

for the record, I do not want C3PX or anyone else to stop posting in this thread or any other thread. 

No one has been offended. Don't play the victim neither, please. Thanks.

Sensitivity should prevail on touchiness sometimes.