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Post #418580

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Erikstormtrooper
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Idea: ESB 70mm reconstruction?
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4-Jun-2010, 2:43 PM

Do we have enough material to reconstruct the 70mm version of ESB? I know there used to be a thread on this, but after 20 minutes of searching, I can’t seem to find it.

With hairy-hen’s reconstruction of the 70mm mix for Star Wars and Adywan’s ESB Theatrical Reconstruction, I’m wondering if we’re closer to being able to achieve this.

Some of the differences are listed here, but I don’t trust wookieepedia: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_changes_in_Star_Wars_re-releases

The video differences would consist of a few different wipes and a few shortened scenes (like the Medical Frigate at the end). I’m thinking most of the different audio is available through the following:

  • 2004 DVD
  • 97’ telecast captures
  • MoveAlong’s The Story of the Empire Strikes Back
  • Puggo Edition of ESB

This isn’t something I can pull off myself, but I’m hoping if we can dump all the info about this in one convenient place, someone will be able to pick up all the pieces and pull this off.

Random Info to get the juices flowing:

Here’s a summary of the differences in the Puggo edition, as noted by Boba Feta:

boba feta said:

Video:
The Emporer does not fade in in his communique with Vader.
Millenium Falcon Satellite dish not visible with Luke on weather vane.

Audio

  • Han saying ‘watch this’ as he tries to jump to hyperspace in the asteriod field. Although the dialogue hasn’t changed different emphasis are put on certain words."
  • Luke - “I don’t pick up any life readings” - Different take
  • Han - “I’m going back” - Different take
  • More rebels calls of ‘retreat’ when Walkers attack
  • Leia "They’re getting closer [star destroyers] - Different take - she stutters it twice
  • Cloud Car pilots - Different line - will confirm with actual line asap.
  • Leia “I know where Luke is” is replaced by “we must go back” or something similar
  • C3P0 - new line just before “I thought that hairy beast would be the end of me” - It’s something like “I’m glad we are back together”
  • The frigate at the end looks decidedly different - i will have to check this.
    Cloud City Security - “Any aggressive move will not be tollerated!”
    Cloud Cit Security - “Permission granted to land on platform 3-2-7. Any deviattion will” - Han cuts of comms.
    Leia - “Lando, hurry up, we’ve got company!” (as Lando is rescuing Luke from the weathervane)
    C3P0- "Get away from there, you don’t know how to fix the hyperdrive!

Mielr talking about MoveAlong’s Story of the Empire Strikes Back:

Mielr said:

<span> </span>There are so many little bits that I appreciated, for instance-
I listened to the ESB LP so many times - I got used to the part where Leia says “we have to go back…WE HAVE TO GO BACK!” instead of the line “we have to go back…I know where Luke is” that is on the home-video versions.

It was also nice to hear Luke’s alternate reading of the line “hang on back there” from the mono version of the sdtk.

MoveAlong on audio differences:

MoveAlong said:

There are even more different takes and lines than people have mentioned. When I was syncing the album audio to the 2004 footage, I had both audio tracks and could isolate them and play them together. I found it fascinating how many subtle (and not so subtle) differences there were. I even thought of having a subtitle track devoted to flagging the differences, but was so burned out I couldn’t bring myself to do it.