Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist — Page 268

Well, the other thing you'd need is a 24p HD camcorder, and those don't come cheap.  I'm talking the prosumer grade stuff to make sure you get footage of comparable quality (especially if Adywan uses another HD source for ROTJ:R).

-NJM

Regarding "enhancement" suggestions to Yoda:

Yoda blinking isn't a new thing... he actually blinks in the original versions of ESB and ROTJ.

Adding extra blinking to Yoda might also backfire... I think his not blinking excessively adds to his character's charisma (and I don't blink!) and zaniness.

Besides, a little woodland creature staring up at you and blinking while mugging for the camera is such a cliche.

Frankly, Yoda is probably the Muppet that needs the least amount of enhancements.

If you were going to attempt to "fix" anything about him it would be his motion when he's "walking" with his cane upon his first meeting with Luke. That looks really muppet-ish and fake. And maybe for a second while he's doing the "mine mine" thing it breaks the illusion slightly.

ROTJ Specifically:

I haven't looked at it frame by frame, but I'm told the shot of Luke flipping in the Death Star is an obvious stunt double with different colored hair than Mark Hamill.

When Vader has his hand cut off, at a certain point (I forget where) I remember thinking it looks really obvious that he's got a longer arm to create the illusion of a "stump." Perhaps that could be fixed somehow.

If you're going to kill off some major character in ROTJ, please let it be Jar Jar Binks. ;)

Kurgan said:

When Vader has his hand cut off, at a certain point (I forget where) I remember thinking it looks really obvious that he's got a longer arm to create the illusion of a "stump." Perhaps that could be fixed somehow.

true. i think it's after Vader tosses the Emperor down the thing and he's slumped over breathing hard looking down there. the actor is bending his wrist at that moment totally shatters the illusion. always bugged me

ROTJ will be a feast for Ady, it really is that bad!!

CHEAP!!..........

but think of this, the additions & modifications that could be made to this movie, could bring it up to the standard of its predecessors  ~~~~~too much beer, maybe edit this in the morning!!

J

I was wondering, while watching videos of it on YouTube, about Lepti Nek.  If Ady intends to restore the scene to its original version, there's going to be an abundance of problems doing this.  One, the only source for all the original footage (especially of the Max Rebo Band) is the GOUT DVD or the laserdisc releases.  So, the quality will be subpar.  Also, I couldn't find any concrete information on the laserdisc specs - did they have 5.1 surround sound mixes back then?  If not, you're left with a 2.0 mix for the entire song and scene.  That could be one of the major headaches here.

-NJM

I don't know about Ady but personally as I've said numerous times before, I'd drop both 'song sequences' and turn it more into an exotic dance number with an alien sounding instrumental piece.

Both the muppets as used in the original version and the CGI things from the SE detract from the atmosphere and tone of the scene.

I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet, but I noticed it when I was watching RoTJ last night and it kind of bugged me. Notice in the image below the interior of the bridge on the Super Star Destroyer.

Notice also that no part of the ship is visible past the bridge windows. Now, considering just how big this ship is, it's impossible that none of the hull would be visible from that angle on the bridge. There is a similar shot later on in the film, just before the ship is destroyed:

Now, there is a large grey surface in the background of this shot, but the curvature would suggest it was the Death Star rather than the angular hull of the Star Destroyer.

In short, would it be possible to add the hull to the scenes involving the bridge of the Star Destroyer? There aren't any shots similar to this in Empire if I remember correctly so it might be difficult to find one that fits nicely.

My quandry is that I can't determine the exact location of the bridges on these Star Destroyers.

-NJM

I've always thought it to be a dirty cloud layer on the Endor Moon

It does seem a bit odd though that the Rebel Fleet take the fight to the Imperial Fleet (to avoid the Death Star) only for The Executor (and ships of both fleets if that gray blur is the Death Star surface) to be so right on top of the station the second the shield is down so that the Imperial flagship can plop to it's doom.

I suspect that storyboarded plan to have the capital ships attack the Death Star was still in there when they filmed these elements but like the extended raid on the bunker we only have a few nonsensical fragments left.

ROTJ is such a mess.

It would be nice to get a bit more variety in what we see of The Executor (not just the bridge shots, the few times we see the ship in any state other than the traditional ESB side on view we lose the city lights and it becomes a dull shot of black boxes).

That would possibly mean making a number of models of different sizes and designing mattes.

A few people have given it a go but I doubt if the would lend their pride and joys for a fan edit (never know though).

Nicholas J. Michalak said:

My quandry is that I can't determine the exact location of the bridges on these Star Destroyers.

-NJM

Towards the rear. An A-Wing crashes into the control tower, and then the Star Destroyer plummets down towards the Death Star - the flaming bit we see in that shot is the bridge, I believe.

Judge said:

Nicholas J. Michalak said:

My quandry is that I can't determine the exact location of the bridges on these Star Destroyers.

-NJM

Towards the rear. An A-Wing crashes into the control tower, and then the Star Destroyer plummets down towards the Death Star - the flaming bit we see in that shot is the bridge, I believe.

I'm no expert in these matters but I think it's somewhere in near the red splodge I've put here (I can't understand why the face of the bridge pod on The Executor seems to be a totally different scale to the normal Star Destroyers when the rest of it seems to be on the same scale, I know there are a few varieties but I always assumed that even though the ship was much bigger the pod was the same size only on a much higher command tower):

Yeah, that looks right to me, but it's not a huge issue. As long as we know the general location of the bridge it shouldn't be that hard to estimate how much of the hull should be visible.

Where are those stills from, vaderios?  They look stunning!

-NJM

Very nice. I can't wait to see it in motion :P