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doubleofive said:

Is there a real one? I saw the Jimmy Kimmel ones.

I don't look at T.V. much, and see now that it was all a put on.  All I saw was talk about there being some kind of alternate endings, but it must be that Kimmel joke.  Too bad.

FF

PURGATORY!!!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=41591828

Up until the last ten minutes at least, that was the most I enjoyed Lost all season.

And where the hell was my boy Mr. Eko?

TheBoost said:

So, they blew up a bomb and created an alternate timeline that for an entire season was totally consistent with being an alternate timeline, including Desmond who we've seen since season 3 can travel through time serving as kind of an intermediary.

Then with four minutes to go they have Jack's dad say "no, this isn't an alternate timeline, it's the afterlife." and before we can say "that doesn't make sense!" there's a cast party and a cliche white light.

In my mind... those 2 minutes Jack's dad talked didn't happen. THEN the show has an ending thats happy, and doesnt' require a whole new level of reality to be added in the SECOND TO LAST SCENE OF THE FINALE.

• The alternate timeline was created when they set off the nuke.
• Desmond, who's electromagnetically special, was able to mediate between the two.
• When a character was 'awakened' in the side-timeline, they were able to live out in peace the rest of their life in this better, island-less world, with full memories of the original timeline.
• Jack died on the island, and ALSO got to live out his life with Kate in the side-step timeline.
• Sawyer escaped the island with Kate and Mile, but ALSO got to be reunited with Juliet.
• With their memories restored, all the Losties reunite at the church and have a celebration. THE END.

 

If it was heaven/limbo all along, why did it have a sunken version of the island? Why did Juliet say 'the bomb worked?' What does Jack's dad know about anything, since apparently every time we ever saw him it was really the Smoke Monster? Nope. F that.

 Yes, this is my biggest problem with the "purgatory" explanation.  It really messes with the ending of season 5, if you think about it.  Why go to all of that trouble to create an alternate reality if it didn't work.  Though apparently Juliet's line: "It worked!" was about the vending machine.

I imagine they decided to "create this place for them to meet up before going to heaven" and Hurley was like,
HURLEY: Dudes.  How about this?  We're all on Oceanic 8-15 together.  We're stuck on a plane for 18 hours and we can all find each other there. 
And then Locke or Jacob or somebody says:  
JACOB: No, wait.  What if we don't meet on the plane, but, like, we keep running into each other for a couple days afterward, and we're all like, What the Frink?!?! and then Sawyer can be a cop, and oh!  Miles could be his partner... and Kate, you can still be a criminal on the run... but this time, get this... YOU DIDN'T ACTUALLY DO IT!
JACK: Can I have a son?
SAYID: Sure, but I want to be with Nadia again.
JACOB: You can be!  But then Sawyer and Miles will come and bust your butt and throw you in jail!
SAYID: Why?
DESMOND: Oh, so I want to actually be working for Widmore...
HURLEY: Dudes... this is way too complicated.  Can't we just meet at baggage claim?

I think the purgatory ending made about much sense as the ending of Grease where *SPOILERS*everyone gets back together, feelings are mended, and Sandy and Danny drive off in a flying car that shoots bubbles.*END SPOILERS*

I like too how Jacob is essentially the Voice in the Sky from Kung Pow: Enter The Fist.  The Voice from the Sky says to the chosen one:

VFTS: At your darkest hour, remember to look to the stars above, chosimba.
CHOSIMBA: Look to the stars above, what does that mean?  I mean, that doesn't make any sense, how is that supposed to help me?
VFTS: It won't.  But then once you've figured it out on your own, you'll go: "Oh...  Stars Above... I get it!"

Also, can you all help me make a list (or maybe someone else posted one somewhere) of all the mysteries that remained unanswered?  I'll start:

What made Walt special?
Why did all of the babies/mothers die?
Where did DHARMA come from?
What was Widmore Labs' connection to DHARMA?
What connection did Ancient Egypt have to the Island?
What was the significance of the statue?
    Why did they call it Taweret when it didn't look anything like Taweret?
If the Island has generic healing powers due to its magical "life source well", then why did Ben need spinal surgery.
Why did Mikhail seem to die so many times, but then come back to life?
Why did Radzinsky make the map on the blast door when he already knew where everything was since he designed the Swan?
Why was there a picture of Anubis consulting with the Smoke Monster if he was created during the Roman years which most likely post-dated the Egyptian presence on the island?
Why did the MIB have no name?  Is it because his birth mother didn't pick 2 names?  Really?

C3PX said:

And where the hell was my boy Mr. Eko?

Mystery: The numbers.  How soon I forgot.

Mysteries:

Why did Hurley and Miles have 'dead' people related Super Powers?
What was the kid Jacob doing, what was the point of that?
Why did the others call the smoke monster 'a sort of security system?'
Why did they create 'cerebus vents' for the smoke monster to move around?  Who made the vents?
How could the smoke monster turn into Christian Shephard and Alex after he was already locked into the John Locke body?
Why did the numbers appear in so many non-island contexts? (The lottery, and everything in Hurley's life?)
The Valenzetti equation?
Why did Rousseau re-record the recording with the numbers?  Why was the original recording in Hurley's voice?
Why did DHARMA use Egyptian hieroglyphs on the countdown timer at the Swan?
How did Yemi's plane make it all of the way to the island?
Why did the Blast Door Map say that the incident was in 1984/5, but the show then said the incident was in 1977?
Who was Magnus Hanso, and what was his connection to Alvar Hanso?
Why was the DHARMA film cut/spliced?

And does anyone else feel a lot of similarities between Lost Seasons 1-5 vs Season 6 and Star Wars Original Trilogy VS Prequels? 

One of the ones that's really getting to me can be seen here at the end of this video:

http://tv.ign.com/dor/objects/821880/lost/videos/lost_wc_end_052410.html

And that is this: A redefinition of what the show was to fit new material.  i.e. "Star Wars is just for kids, why are you getting so upset about it?" and "Lost was always just about the characters.  If you read more into these mysteries than was meant to, that's your fault."  And the air of superiority among people that liked it and how they look down on people that "refuse to 'let go'".  They're essentially saying, "You're so immature (and so, so, so much less mature than I) because you're so hung up on the mysteries.  Maybe one day, when you grow up some, you'll be like me and will see the show for as beautiful as it is."

To be fair, I'm probably doing the opposite.  I do really think that as the emotional high wears off, a lot of people are going to look back at it... or rewatch parts of the show, and will realize how much the show was focused on the mysteries of the island, how unsatisfactory the answers we did get were, and how many mysteries were just left hanging.  They'll realize that the 'emotional' part of the finale was really just a big switcheroo, and that they were promised filet mignon and wine, fed hotdogs and diet soda, and sent home with a full belly.

People are accusing me of 'expecting too much.'  I expected it to be good, and to have some decent surprises, and for it to wow me to some degree like all of the past season finales have done.  I don't think that is too much to expect...

Thanks to you, I'm already coming down from the emotional high and getting back to my roots on the show, which were the mysteries. The problem is that we can't dwell on them any more because there are no answers. There never were. Sure, its disappointing, but hey, its their fault they didn't think it completely through and explain everything in a way that changes the way you look at the entire series.

There could have been an ending that made me want to rewatch the whole series and be able to finally understand what was going on. But they didn't do that. Even redefining the alt-timeline as the afterlife doesn't make me want to watch this last season again because I already know it still doesn't make sense.

Well, you should be used to being the unstobbable force railing against the unmovable object, for that is what we O-OT fans are.

And dwell on them I will, until the next shiny object that will eventually disappoint me comes along.  :)

Geronimo Jackson's Dharma Lady and Drive Shaft's You All Everybody are now available on Rock Band Network.

I'm afraid I'll have to have these, no matter my feelings toward the finale.

Both of those songs were a little disappointing, even for a dollar.  At 2 minutes, You All Everybody is a joke about 2 minutes too long.

In other news, Maxim's list of Lost Spinoff's:

http://www.maxim.com/tv/guy-tv/90510/ultimate-lost-spin-offs.html

Does You All Everybody even have verses?

You all, everybody
You all, everybody
Acting like you're stupid people
Wearing 'spensive clothes
You all, everybody
You all, everybody
You all, everybody

Everybody did a TV show
Everybody watched for six straight years
Everybody waits for a big fab end

Now everybody really doesn't know
what the hell happened on the island, yeah
they're just all dead down in a church

CHORUS

I'm glad I watched episodes for free
All I lost was a little time
with no DVD sets here to sell

I'd be ticked if I started watching
Time invested without a real payoff
I hate you, LOST, I hate hate hate you

Some of this was made up.

Yeah, those aren't the same lyrics as on the Rock Band Song.

I've forgotten all about it. :-D

I'm just watching Lost:The final journey, and it makes me miss the good old days of Lost.

The mystery, the suspense, the damn good story telling. It may not of had the best ending, but it sure was a good ride!!

I came up with what I think is the perfect analogy for the six seasons of Lost.

It's the plot of one episode that's in just about every family/teen based sitcom ever... You remember the one. That one episode where <the kid> wants the popular kid to come to his birthday party, so he lies and says that <insert cool band name here> will be at his birthday party... and the popular kid believes him and is excited to come to the party, and then the whole school hears about the <cool band>. The day of the birthday party comes up and <the kid> starts to freak out, because everyone will know he's a liar. Instead, he gets his older brother's garage band to make an appearance and maybe people will be pretty happy with that... And then the birthday party happens and <cool band> is nowhere to be seen. Everyone gets upset and goes from thinking that <the kid> is the coolest person at school to thinking that they are the most full of crap person at school.

That is what the show Lost now is to me.