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Might have to track this down...

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Ok, got off topic with the music stuff. Yes, George no longer cares. I just don't get it. Why, George, why? I realize that the packaging for the new thing looks great. However, what is packagning without the original version? Again, why not put out both versions on the DVD set. Does he no longer respect our decision as fans to make up our minds? The answer seems to be yes. I have to say it again, this is a travesty of justice in modern cinema. I'm glad Speilberg did not masacre the Indy trillogy with this type of stuff.
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Amen. I don't think anything further needs to be said.

Bossk, can we kill this one?

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Originally posted by: McCartneyFan
Ok, got off topic with the music stuff. Yes, George no longer cares. I just don't get it. Why, George, why? I realize that the packaging for the new thing looks great. However, what is packagning without the original version? Again, why not put out both versions on the DVD set. Does he no longer respect our decision as fans to make up our minds? The answer seems to be yes. I have to say it again, this is a travesty of justice in modern cinema. I'm glad Speilberg did not masacre the Indy trillogy with this type of stuff.


What are you talking about. Indiana Jones DVDs have changes with no option to watch original versions.
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Indy did minor changes and it only fixed things. No cartoony Epsiode I scenes were added into Indy. Your comparing apples and oranges and only trying to stir people up. Go get the SE when it comes out and shut up about it all because your points are moot.
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Originally posted by: McCartneyFan
Ok, got off topic with the music stuff. Yes, George no longer cares. I just don't get it. Why, George, why? I realize that the packaging for the new thing looks great. However, what is packagning without the original version? Again, why not put out both versions on the DVD set. Does he no longer respect our decision as fans to make up our minds? The answer seems to be yes. I have to say it again, this is a travesty of justice in modern cinema. I'm glad Speilberg did not masacre the Indy trillogy with this type of stuff.


What are you talking about. Indiana Jones DVDs have changes with no option to watch original versions.




Far as I am aware, only minor editing to remove the glass mirror when Indy meets the cobra in Raiders. The films are 99% of what was presented in theaters. The 1% being taken out as the picture would obviously have to be cleaned up. It's not as though there was an extra scene with, say Indy talking with his father edited into Raiders. Where, on the SE versions I could clearly see what was done to some scenes. Eg. Solo and Greedo in the bar (totally sucked, IMHO); and Vader going to his shuttle in Empire (really doesn't seem to add anything to the movie); as well as Boba Fett emerging from the sarlac pit (keeps the mystery of how he survived that ordeal to appear in the comics in the mid 1980's.)

My personal argument is to offer both versions so we can have the choice. There is enough room, without erasing history.
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If you want a comparison point for what was done with the Indy DVDs, Citizen Kane would be a better example. Digital correction is not the same as digital manipulation and addition.

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The changes are much much smaller but there are changes and no originals. So its essencially the same thing.
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So you would say that the original version of Citizen Kane no longer exists?

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The movies are the original. The SE star wars are NOT the original. Like I said apples to oranges. If the changes are so small and do not change the flow of the movie, then yes they are the originals. But if the movie ceases to be what it was in original form, then thats the problem. Theres a threshold that Lucas didnt tiptoe over, he hit it with a lawnmower.
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Nice analogy.

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Theres a threshold that Lucas didnt tiptoe over, he hit it with a lawnmower.

Very nicely put Big Mike.
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what changes did they make with Citizen Kane?
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Citizen Kane was subject to a massive digital cleanup. The problem was that the cleanup revealed too much of certain elements and had to be digitally blurred and adjusted to restore the film to the way it likely would have looked when it was first released. This is similar to the effects fixing that was done on the IJ set (reflection removal, etc.).

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Trying not to kill the point here. However, issuing both would be fine. I'll use my Beatles analogy here. They issued Let It Be in 1970. They also issued Let It Be Naked in 2003. Both versions of it exist. People can choose. I don't see why Lucas can not see this simple fact. Even from an economic standpoint; if he released both versions onto a 6 DVD set, he could charge more and make more money from sales. I'm just surprised he hasn't gone at it from that angle. What next? A special edition of American Graffiti where they are in hover cars as opposed to the accurate late 1950's/early 1960's cars in the movie?



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Try not to give anybody any ideas.

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Try not to give anybody any ideas.




True. Though I'd be surprised if he was reading this forum.



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He doesn't have to be; he can hire someone to do it for him.

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