Finlander said:
First, I want to say that "Finlander" is freakin' great! :D Seriously, no one ever mispronounced my nickname like that before, I had a good laugh (no excuses needed, btw).
Totally accidental. You have my most sincere apology, and it won't happen again. Let's just chalk it up to being old. ;)
Farlander said:<does every sequel change how you see the original(s)?>
You asked this question, and I think the answer you came to was 'no'. However, the answer for me is 'mostly yes.' I like all of the Matrix movies, though there are things in the 2nd and 3rd movies I don't like (and there are things that I really, really like) but I won't get into that more here. Absolutely PotC is a good comparison or what is going on now with Lost is another good one. In the case of PotC or Lost, story threads were intentionally left dangling in Dead Man's Chest (which I loved/love) or Lost Seasons 1-5 that it is now the burden of AWE or Season 6 to resolve. And in the way that both of these properties are totally ruining the final chapter... it makes it really hard to go back and enjoy the 2nd to last chapter. (Hopefully these sentences are making sense to everyone else...) Let me rephrase a little: Part of what makes everything up til the end exciting is the anticipation of what will come in the end. If the end then sucks, then the entire venture up to the end also sucks. I really liked DMC, and I really disliked AWE... I think I still like DMC, but in a more confused way. What's the point in watching DMC if all of the storylines are wrapped up so poorly in AWE? I don't know, I haven't watched DMC in a little bit so I can't say for sure.
Hop over to my 'Trading on Promises; thread http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/A-New-Hope-Trading-on-Promises-or-Trailer-for-the-SW-Universe/topic/11379/ for some similar ideas, but I'll reiterate. Prequels/sequels/endings, etc... absolutely affect how I see/enjoy the rest of the franchise. In the case of Star Wars, as I've mentioned, the only way I enjoy the OT anymore is to FORCEfully remove the PT from my brain. I mean, if there were a PT, which there isn't.
Frinklander:
PS. And nobody answered on how Palpatine and Vader planned to turn Luke to the Dark Side of the Force. :p OT-wise.
The PT (which doesn't exist) did make me consider this scene. As you may know from seeing my posts from around the site, I'm very interested and have wasted many an afternoon (and Sunday Sermon) thinking about how to rewrite/reboot the Prequels and actually make some sense. What I've learned in this process is some of the shortcomings of the OT and how what might see like a very clear issue from 10,000 ft becomes very hard to understand once you take a closer look at it. The ages of Obi-Wan and Vader in respect to Luke is one such thing (is Anakin Luke's grandfather, perhaps?) and the turn scene is another. As oposed to going on any further here, let me direct you to some other threads discussing this very same question:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Luke-VS-the-Emperor-What-if-Vader-hadnt-been-there/topic/11026/ (my thoughts on your question really get going at post 17)
and here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Why-the-hell-did-the-lazy-Emperor-even-think-Luke-would-join-the-dark-side-and-become-his-new-apprentice/topic/8657/
Baronlando and CO basically said:
The OT wasn't deep, it was FUN!
Corellian77 essentially said:
Dudes, it's both!
And I agree with C77.
mfastx said:
but I never really thought the prequels sucked.
That is why you fail.</yoda>
RE: Puggo. Good points. I think that time will be less and less kind to the PT as... er... time goes on. You're right, it's already happened to some degree. I'm also afraid that the PT is bringing the OT down with it for new generations that dont' know the difference.