SW Episode III - Reign of the Dark Side (* unfinished project *) — Page 14

vaderios said:

DuTwan said:

Angel anychance you could possibly have a go at taking out the colour out of palpatines 'evil face' and making it paler like ROTJ style and replace the yellow eyes with normal eyes?

Palpatine was iconic. Even he was very little in ROTJ he was more memorable from the timefiller maul.

As redletter media said the characters from ep 1 to two are whole different persons. thats why i dont know how the idea maul - grievous can work as Bingo suggested. Maul never speaks. GG is speaking all the time.

So id rather make normal palp with evil eyes rather the opposite ;)

 

-Angel

 I understand, it works with some ppl but not others, to me GG is too different a character to maul, dont really like the idea of maul to GG.

Palpatine i suppose was the iconic symbol of evil. it works in that context.

haraldo23 said:

Darth Maul was the only good thing about TPM. The way he looks should not be changed IMHO.

What exactly was good on him? what was his purpose? Or maybe it had in his face a big word "COOL FACTOR"

-Angel

Imagine then replacing each "lens flare" with a "lens maul"

-Lensed Angel

vaderios said:

haraldo23 said:

Darth Maul was the only good thing about TPM. The way he looks should not be changed IMHO.

What exactly was good on him? what was his purpose? Or maybe it had in his face a big word "COOL FACTOR"

-Angel

 As people already call him Darth Timefiller he doesnt have a purpose other than looking cool with double bladed lightsaber. They should have used him all the way through the prequel imho. Through him they could have explain who the sith were and what they were all about. Palpatine couldnt of been used for this as he was working in the shadows as it were.

I still love the idea of getting rid of the yellow eyes except Darth Sidious. He the symbol of evil. Anakin was a gimmick to say hey look im evil now. Dooku never had yellow eyes despite the fact he was a "Sith". Darth Maul looks fine with yellow eyes due to the design of his character. Angel has proved that Darth Maul without yellow eyes can be just as good if not better. Be rid of the yellow eyes i say! haha

DuTwan said:

vaderios said:

haraldo23 said:

Darth Maul was the only good thing about TPM. The way he looks should not be changed IMHO.

What exactly was good on him? what was his purpose? Or maybe it had in his face a big word "COOL FACTOR"

-Angel

 As people already call him Darth Timefiller he doesnt have a purpose other than looking cool with double bladed lightsaber. They should have used him all the way through the prequel imho. Through him they could have explain who the sith were and what they were all about. Palpatine couldnt of been used for this as he was working in the shadows as it were.

I still love the idea of getting rid of the yellow eyes except Darth Sidious. He the symbol of evil. Anakin was a gimmick to say hey look im evil now. Dooku never had yellow eyes despite the fact he was a "Sith". Darth Maul looks fine with yellow eyes due to the design of his character. Angel has proved that Darth Maul without yellow eyes can be just as good if not better. Be rid of the yellow eyes i say! haha

 

That's a lot of work for the sake of working.

EyeShotFirst said:

 

That's a lot of work for the sake of working.

 Not really, Darth Maul appears in few scenes, Dooku doesnt have yellow eyes and anakin has yellow eyes in only few scenes. It wouldnt be a huge work load but i can see many ppl agreeing that its a change that maybe just for the sake of it, but i feel its important to step away from the cartoony/child like side of prequel trilogy that lucas put in. I totally understand its a kids movie but many reviewers have said they feel as if Lucas has to force it into our head whats happening on screen and thats how i feel about anakin having yellow eyes, its forced and not natural. Imagine anakin have huge love hearts on his eyes when we see the balcony scene....that horrible, horrible balcony scene....

TV's Frink said:

Seems like we've gotten way off track in an EP3 thread, but I'm gonna say that sometimes movies need a cool factor, and EP1 was one of those movies.  I don't think I'd change a thing about Maul other than maybe having a little more of him.

This ain't Schindler's List, you know.

seconded!

haraldo23 said:

vaderios said:

What exactly was good on him? what was his purpose? Or maybe it had in his face a big word "COOL FACTOR"

-Angel

Yes, I admit - he looks great and that's the reason I like him.

Nothing in TPM looked as cool as Darth Maul,  so I think he should stay the way he looks right now.

 

well maybe not as pink! ;-)

Darth Timefiller or not, modifying his eye color doesnt change that.  He wasn't human. Yellow eyes are a part of his anatomy, not the fact that he is a Sith.  Giving him human eyes doesn't look better imho, it makes him look more like a human with facepaint and horns glued on his head.

If you think he was timefiller or intended cool factor, then by all means remove the character completely, don't justify it by changing his eye color.

Personally I dont have a strong opinion about the "Sith eyes" debate, or whether or not the human Sith should or should not get the evil eye once they turn to the darkside.  However I am against changing Maul's eyes to try to justify (or create) some bad storytelling.  It doesn't make any sense.

In the end though, its Bob's edit, and whatever he wants he should go with.  There are a ton of prequel edits and never will anyone be happy with the movie.  It just ain't gonna happen.  I've been thoroughly impressed with the things he has done so far.

Im not sayin get rif of mauls yellow eyes per se. i sayin i prefer without yellow eyes, its the issue of anakin having yellow eyes im not too sure about. its been said its like a gimmick.

Or we can assume after that concept that Luke indeed defeated vader without his anger rather the saying of palps :) No sith eyes for him ;)

-Angel

Well the debate over the idea of more Sith eyes scenes kind of worked itself out without my help. The first shot that I did looked pretty darn good, but as I'm adding the eyes to more shots It looks amazingly bad, and doesnt quite give the feeling that I was intending. It just looks very out of place.

So atm , Sith eyes are out. Based on suggestions from a few people here. I'm going to tinker around with removing them entirely from this film, with the exception of the Emperor.

As I stated before, It wasnt something that I was dead set on having added anyways. The only way I was going to include more Sith eye moments was if it helped the story, came across looking good, and promoted the idea of a struggle in Anakin. If it didnt do all 3 of those things, it wasnt going to happen.

bobgarcia74 said:

Well the debate over the idea of more Sith eyes scenes kind of worked itself out without my help. The first shot that I did looked pretty darn good, but as I'm adding the eyes to more shots It looks amazingly bad, and doesnt quite give the feeling that I was intending. It just looks very out of place.

So atm , Sith eyes are out. Based on suggestions from a few people here. I'm going to tinker around with removing them entirely from this film, with the exception of the Emperor.

As I stated before, It wasnt something that I was dead set on having added anyways. The only way I was going to include more Sith eye moments was if it helped the story, came across looking good, and promoted the idea of a struggle in Anakin. If it didnt do all 3 of those things, it wasnt going to happen.

 Glad to hear it Bob. Are you going to get rid of the yellow eyes during anakin's burning scene? *crosses fingers* please say yes. I would rather see anakin with normal eyes in this scene. I think it would be more emotional that ''good anakin'' tells him he hates him instead of yellow eyed ''evil anakin''