The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 176

I think adding Dooku to TPM and the general to AOTC makes a lot of sense.

Davnes007 said:

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Agreed, but I would limit both appearances to cameos. We could have Grievous in the war room on Geonosis, but save his introduction for ROTS.

I made some mock ups of adding Dooku to Qui-Gon's funeral, but they are buried somewhere in this thread. The idea was that he looks at the building where the funeral is held, says something like "Goodbye old friend" and sighs. Nothing really spectacular, but I think it's workable, and not too intrusive in the movie. Adding him to the Council might work too, I think that has been suggested before.

Whilst I always kind of liked your idea of Dooku appearing at the end of Episode 1, won't first time viewers be like "who is this dude?" seeing as he'd be introduced to us at the end of the film, without even being hinted at prior.

If he was introduced as a council member via a hologram and then at Qui-Gon's funeral it could work, especially if dialogue could be fabricated from Mr Lee's large body of work.

I agree that if dialogue was cobbled together to make him stand out, it could work, but simply having him on the council wouldn't. You'd be just as confused seeing Dooku at the end as you would Eeth Koth....or Plo Koon.....or god forbid Yarael Poof!

Oh yes, Yarael Poof is there any minority group Lucas won't seek out to offend (by accident of course)?

I'm posting this here as well as in my own thread as it's a radical idea, and most probably beyond the scope of my abilities or resources.

I've always hated the Kaminoans. The way they look, the way they talk, everything about them. Plus they sound too human for something so alien.

In my eyes, a society of cloners shown to a human audience should be humans themselves, but drastically enhanced/altered due to them having played god to such an extent. It would have more of an impact if they're something alien, but not so alien that we don't care.

I'm imagining very tall (obi wan must look up to talk to them) grey/sallow skin, something replacing/covering their mouths (as all their sustenance would be supplied artificially).

Basically like a very tall Darth Malak from Kotor, but without the tattoos or evilness. And in some kind of sterile looking jumpsuit rather than sith armour.

This would require filming live action footage, and compositing it over the existing kaminoans. I wouldn't foresee a huge problem with the scene where they're sat in the chairs as everything looks so hazy and fake that compositing can't make it look any worse, but I'm wondering if it's even possible for the corridor scenes.

I always though that there was something shark like about stormtrooper helmets (they are obviously meant to look a bit skeletal too but the slit slat mouth and the jet black eyes do look a bit like a shark).

If Kamino is a water world having them look a bit shark-like would make sense.

Not to mention the fins on the original clonetrooper helmets.

Very rough around the edges but you get the basic idea, if you put some clothes on it and gave it a very civil nature which defied it's look it could be an interesting concept :

Nice mockup, Bingo! However I still think making them essentially human (but drastically altered) has more of an impact, as the audience can see how much they've played god. Whereas with your (admittedly cool) shark concept, they have no point of reference for what is the "norm"

Also, the mouth guard would make redubbing a faneditors dream.

hey guys you should cheack some of the ideas lucas had for the prequels before he made them and see whether there is a way to implement them in whatever fan edits come

http://starwarz.com/starkiller/illustrated.htm

reading this now kind of frustrates me.  why didn't he look back on these original ideas rather than writing up something else

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

OK, so I'm still thinking about AOTC and here's my question:

What do the seperatists want?!! Dooku says: "The republic will agree to any demands we make." Are they just gonna sit around and come up with random demands?  "I demand that...um...Palpatine...should...dance a jig on top of the Senate building...holding...a...duck!"

That was my attempt at some humor. I'm sorry.

But seriously, I'm trying to make Dooku a rogue Jedi here and I need to be able to explain his (and the seperatists) motivations. Maybe we could add a line or two by Nute in the meeting Obi-wan overhears...we've already talked about redubbing him anyway.

Thoughts?

I think I brought up some ideas for this earlier in the thread.

It would have to be addressed in Episode 1, though. Basically the retitled "Galactic Federation" (replacing anything to do with trade or taxation) separatist army seeks to dominate the galaxy just as the Empire seeks to do in the original. Why? Well, why does the Empire seek to dominate the galaxy? Exactly - it's not important. They're the badguys and they want to rule the galaxy. If it was good enough for the original trilogy, it's certainly good enough for the prequels.

Oh, and by the time TPM opens the opening crawl would reveal that the Republic is already in conflict with them - but that things have only gotten worse now that they've invaded Naboo Alderaan. If Dooku is a rogue Jedi, it could simply be that he believes a galaxy under the control of the Galactic Federation would ultimately suffer less than a galaxy under the control of the Sith - which is convenient, because he seems pretty sincere in his appeal for Obi-Wan to join him. Perhaps Dooku made a deal with the devil and simply joined this coalition of warlords, hoping to limit their tyranny whilst also fighting the Sith?

I did suggest earlier that Separatists initially didn't want to be separate but were conned into shady actions which led to them becoming ostracised as rogue states.

So they had a choice of either sitting on the naughty step inside the Republic or leaving.

They may start out by demanding that their stories of a conspiracy be heard to let them back into the Republic on the same footing they used to enjoy and built the droid army merely for defense (which nobody believes now because of their track record).

After that they may just demand to be left alone but with a large army and the means to move it around the galaxy they are (with some cause) seen as too much of a potential threat by the Republic.

Bingowings said:

I did suggest earlier that Separatists initially didn't want to be separate but were conned into shady actions which led to them becoming ostracised as rogue states.

^This.

I'm all for making the Neimodians more like victims who were simply exploited in the first film, and in Episode 2 are part of the good fight. Though the republic don't believe them due to their track record.

brash_stryker said:

 

 

 Somebody actually created Darth Marshmallow here?  Sad.