Nanner Split said:

C3PX said:

Warbler said:

actually, I've been told that use of the word homosexual in the verse is suspect look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality

Errrr, wikipedia being used as a scholarly source...

Wikipedia is a lot more reputable now than it was a few years ago, now that they require references to be cited and linked to. (I agree with your post otherwise, I'm not trying to be a naysayer or anything :P )

But their are no requirements on the ligitmacy of the sources used. Still pretty sketchy. Might be a good place to start for lazy would-be researches, just so long as they follow the links back to the original source before decided they have found what they are looking for.

Anyway, I wasn't really trying to say Warb used it improperly. It is a good source for quick information. I've used wikipedia in here several times, though that always turned out to be a disaster (norms and mores discussion... *shudders*).

Warbler said:

also, what about that thief that was crucified next to Jesus that said "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom" and Jesus replied "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise"

why wouldn't the same be true for a homosexual?

If Jesus told them face to face? Hell, I sure wouldn't argue with him.

Warbler said:

all I can tell you is that is the main belief of most Christian Churches. If you accept Christ as your savior, you go to heaven. If you don't, you go to hell.

If there was quantifier, that we couldn't go to heaven if we sinned, heaven would be an empty place.

I seem to remember a lot of stuff in the Bible about repentance, forgiveness, walking in the light, people being lost, even stuff about feeding the poor and hungry, and that short of stuff. I suppose that is all just dead weight? Redundant bits of information?