Warbler said:
actually gays don't go to hell. It is those that have failed to take Christ as their savior, that go to hell. If a Gay takes Christ as his Savior, he is saved. I believe that is the mainstream Christian belief
No. Not really.
1 Corinthians 6:9 - 10 (NASV)
9Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
The above is pretty much what most Christians have traditionally believed for a very long time, and many still do. Some of the more progressive groups believe homosexuals are saved, but you will still find the "mainstream" belief to somewhat adhere to the above verse. If this is not the "mainstream" Christian belief then things like Proposition 8 not passing are a bit of a conundrum and Christians were wrongly accused of being the primary reason it didn't pass.
Ironically, Christians make a huge deal about homosexuals based on this verse and a few passages in the Old Testament. But they seem to ignore several of the other things listed along side homosexuals, or if not outright ignore them, tend to look the other way. I am at least two of the things on that list on a fairly regular basis, unabashedly. Does that make me Biblically as bad as a homosexual. ABSOLUTELY! So, why don't we see people running around carrying signs saying, "God Hates Fornicators!", "God Hates Idolaters!" (something I'd say an extremely high percentage of American Christians are guilty of), or "God Hates the Covetous!"? Just thought I'd go off on a soapbox tangent and do a bit of preaching. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
Warbler said:
TheBoost said:
"Mainstream" Christianity is a difficult term, and perhaps I chose poorly to use it, but there are definitly churchs that DO hold those Gays=Hell beleif.
yeah, if you are talking about the nuts that protest funerals, but I wouldn't call them mainstream.
Nope. An very large number of pretty normal, happy, friendly, support your troops sort of groups whole heartedly believe gays=hell.