Warbler said:

you seem to be reading things into my posts which aren't there. I never said that Catholic beliefs are dumb. Nor did I say that all of Vatican 2 should be revoked nor any of the other stuff you mentioned. You make it seem like I am bigoted against the Catholic Church. That is just not so.

I was kind of riffing on your and xhonzi's post at once (although you did suggest women priests and called their reasoning 'silly'). It seems off to pick and chose what other religions' "core beliefs" are worthy (if we agree that child buggering is not a core belief).

actually gays don't go to hell. It is those that have failed to take Christ as their savior, that go to hell. If a Gay takes Christ as his Savior, he is saved. I believe that is the mainstream Christian belief

Fair enough for your church, but in responce to Bingo's post, if a Church does believe that (or, as I've heard before that if you REALLY accepted Christ you wouldn't be gay anymore, so a gay can't be saved QED) does that mean we are duty bound to NOT respect them?