xhonzi said:

What you might be trying to say, and what I'd agree with you: They need to return to their basics. They don't need fresh new ideas, they need to return to the ideas that are/should be at the core of their faith.

Warbler said:

The reason giving for not allowing Women to be Priests(that none of the 12 disciples were women) just seems silly to me.

Mass should go back to being Latin, and plenury indulgences should return? Should the church give up it's tacit approval of evolution and it's admittance that Galeleio wa right? Should all of Vatican 2 be revoked so that we can go back to what we apparently think is/should be the core of their faith? Or should only what seems "silly" have to change back, and other changes are OK?

As we all agree the molestation and institutional corruption is bad, but it just strikes me as odd that in a thread about respecting other people's beleifs, we're still totally comfortable saying how the Catholics beliefs are dumb.