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Studio should not force a filmmaker to pan scan. Its like a muesum cuting a painting in half to fit it on there wall properly.
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Originally posted by: jimbo
Get this on Terminator 3 not only does fullscreen show more on the top and bottoms get this. A couple shots fullscreen shows more on the sides. Warning there is some nudity for the scemise and the gay. Heres proof. During the effects shots they were framed in 1.85 so the widescreen shows more on the sides but the fullscreen version shows a bit more on the top. So effects shots were done in Super 35 and the rest was soft matte.
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Originally posted by: WarblerQuote
Yes but correct me if I'm wrong althought you're seeing everything the director shot, not everthing that the director shot is somthing that he/she wants you to see. Which is why even in this case the Widescreen print is stlll the correct version. I think anyway.
I disagree. Many widescreen fans say this but I think that whichever version shows more of the shot picture. For example in Terminator 3 only the fullscreen version has any nudity. Kristanna Loken breast are not shown in widescreen. Why on earth would the directer not want you to see this. Hell even some effects shots look better in fullscreen. In the making of it showed how they animated the water below the Hunter Killer and talked for 5 minutes on how they did this. When it shows the final shot in 2.35 widescreen the water below the hunter killer is not visible. Yes there are definutly movies where the fullscreen version is superior but not alot of them. Still this is about Star Wars that movie is clearly much better in widescreen.
The point when T3 was in the theater it was shown widescreen. If the director perfers the fullscreen version, why is the widescreen version the one being shown in the theaters?
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Originally posted by: Warbler
Jimbo, for once you and I agree. And I don't need to click to anything to know why it sucks. I will never watch any Star Wars film in Pan and Scam ever again.
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Originally posted by: WarblerQuote
Yes but correct me if I'm wrong althought you're seeing everything the director shot, not everthing that the director shot is somthing that he/she wants you to see. Which is why even in this case the Widescreen print is stlll the correct version. I think anyway.
I disagree. Many widescreen fans say this but I think that whichever version shows more of the shot picture. For example in Terminator 3 only the fullscreen version has any nudity. Kristanna Loken breast are not shown in widescreen. Why on earth would the directer not want you to see this. Hell even some effects shots look better in fullscreen. In the making of it showed how they animated the water below the Hunter Killer and talked for 5 minutes on how they did this. When it shows the final shot in 2.35 widescreen the water below the hunter killer is not visible. Yes there are definutly movies where the fullscreen version is superior but not alot of them. Still this is about Star Wars that movie is clearly much better in widescreen.
The point when T3 was in the theater it was shown widescreen. If the director perfers the fullscreen version, why is the widescreen version the one being shown in the theaters?
Because modern theaters aren't equipped to show 4:3 films.
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Originally posted by: bad_karma24<br
I really don't get what you're saying. T3 was shown theatrically at 2.35:1. It's filming process was Super 35, for everything, not just the effects shots. If it was soft matted, it would have been 1.85:1.
And stop going on about the nudity. You really are 16... (I'm 17, but whatever )
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Originally posted by: jimbo
Actually there are four processes
anamorphic print - shotting the movie in its theatrical ratio and cutting off the sides for fullscreen. Oviously movies shot in this make widescreen superior. What was done with Star Wars.
Hard matte - Filming in fullscreen. Cutting off top and bottom. then cutting off sides to fullscreen. Widescreen version is better.
Super 35 - shooting the movie in an inbetween ratio so that the widescreen and fullscreen versions are pan scaned equally. Its worth noting that most effects shots will be done in hard matte for these movies.
Open (Soft) matte - shooting movies in 1.33 and simply cutting of tops and bottoms to create widescreen. Again effects shots are done in hard matte.
For the record bad_karma24 only Terminator 2 was shot Super 35. Terminator 3 was shot in soft matte.
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Originally posted by: jimbo
I disagree. Many widescreen fans say this but I think that whichever version shows more of the shot picture. For example in Terminator 3 only the fullscreen version has any nudity. Kristanna Loken breast are not shown in widescreen. Why on earth would the directer not want you to see this. Hell even some effects shots look better in fullscreen. In the making of it showed how they animated the water below the Hunter Killer and talked for 5 minutes on how they did this. When it shows the final shot in 2.35 widescreen the water below the hunter killer is not visible.
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Originally posted by: JayAnybody here have The Goonies on DVD? I had never seen it in its original 2.35:1 presentation until the DVD's release, and it's a completely different experience. I thought it was awesome when I heard that Warner originally planned to release it as P&S only until Donner got wind of it and insisted it be presented in widescreen.
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Originally posted by: Jay
The director's vision should come first. The wants and needs of an ignorant moviegoing public should be irrelevant. The mighty dollar has the final say in most cases, unfortunately.
Princess Leia: I happen to like nice men.
Han Solo: I'm a nice man.
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Princess Leia: I happen to like nice men.
Han Solo: I'm a nice man.
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Originally posted by: bad_karma24
Because modern theaters aren't equipped to show 4:3 films.
Princess Leia: I happen to like nice men.
Han Solo: I'm a nice man.