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This seemed like an appropriate topic to break away from the politics thread. I hope I'm right.

OK, so you are conservative/liberal/libertarian/anarchist/whatever you call yourself. What talking head/pundit on "your team" annoys you? Who do you wish didn't take your side in the great public debate?

I consider myself conservative-libertarian - and to me, Sean Hannity is a ten-gallon irritant. A shrill, smug pest, with all due respect to pests. I find my sympathies drifting against him when I see him debating someone on TV - and I often agree with him!

G. Gordon Liddy has also been identified as a leading conservative - he's a joke.

More to come, I think. I feel like I'm leaving one or two people out.

 

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I'm fairly progressive on many views, but I wish I could cut Michael Moore's throat.

 

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Olbermann.  I loved him and Dan Patrick on ESPN's Sportcenter back in the day, and when he first started Countdown I kind of dug it.  Now I can't even stand to see his face he's gotten so ridiculous.

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I don't consider myself a liberal and I am definitely not a Conservative.   So I guess I can't answer the question. 

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There are no pundits who argue the same things you do, Warbler? If so, who in that group turns you off?

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there are pundits who argue a few of the same things I do,  but disagree with them on other things.  

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Bill Maher. I liked his movie "Religulous", I like his TV show sometimes, but I saw his most recent stand-up special and it was way too crazy-guy-spouting-conspiracy-theories-on-the-street-corner for me.

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Michael Savage goes without saying, and Sean Hannity lost me when he said that we should torture Democrat congressmen that oppose the Iraq War.

Right now I'm mostly pissed at Glenn Beck though, because he's basically telling people that love your neighbor is a perversion of the Gospel of Christ. Link.

Yes, I'm against the government taking too much power into its own hands in order to achieve social justice, but to say that churches who are working for it are in the wrong is absolutely ridiculous.

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Bill Maher. I liked his movie "Religulous", I like his TV show sometimes, but I saw his most recent stand-up special and it was way too crazy-guy-spouting-conspiracy-theories-on-the-street-corner for me.

yeah,  I don't like Maher all that much anymore.  He comes across as someone who is bigoted against religious people. 

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Darth Chaltab said:

Michael Savage goes without saying, and Sean Hannity lost me when he said that we should torture Democrat congressmen that oppose the Iraq War.

Right now I'm mostly pissed at Glenn Beck though, because he's basically telling people that love your neighbor is a perversion of the Gospel of Christ. Link.

Yes, I'm against the government taking too much power into its own hands in order to achieve social justice, but to say that churches who are working for it are in the wrong is absolutely ridiculous.

+1 on Beck! I'd been listening to him since 2004 and he was great, but he's really gone crazy and out of hand the last year. The nail in coffin for me was when he setup our Tea Party Republican candidate for Gov here in Texas, Debra Medina, on behalf of "Slick" Rick Perry, our current sorry excuse for a Gov. Then he LIED about it!! Prior to that, I could never pin down what his actual core beliefs were. One day he'd be conservative, the next he sound like an anarchist, then he'd start quoting some great libertarians and claim to be one. Then all the little goofy stuff got annoying. I couldn't keep up, then whole Medina debacle which he lied about thereafter. I no longer record his show and can even tolerate him that much.

Also +1 on Savage, I've never really liked him.

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Warbler said:

Nanner Split said:

Bill Maher. I liked his movie "Religulous", I like his TV show sometimes, but I saw his most recent stand-up special and it was way too crazy-guy-spouting-conspiracy-theories-on-the-street-corner for me.

yeah,  I don't like Maher all that much anymore.  He comes across as someone who is bigoted against religious people. 

It's possible. Although it's also probably a combination of the occasional frustration we atheists get from time to time coupled with a mid-life crisis. Why else would someone wait until their mid 50's to make a religious polemic? :P

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Warbler said:

Nanner Split said:

Bill Maher. I liked his movie "Religulous", I like his TV show sometimes, but I saw his most recent stand-up special and it was way too crazy-guy-spouting-conspiracy-theories-on-the-street-corner for me.

yeah,  I don't like Maher all that much anymore.  He comes across as someone who is bigoted against religious people. 

Well, the man is plainly and outspokenly against the whole idea of religion as a phenomenon. Is it possible to hold that view and not be 'bigoted against religious people'?

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well,  I certainly think its possible to be an atheist and not be bigoted against religious people.  

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I like Beck, but only in small doses.  He's very sarcastic and goofy- which I can appreciate, but again I doubt he's bringing anybody over the fence with that tact.  I mentioned Mark Levin in the other thread, so I guess I'll drop his name here again.  He just comes across as so angry and I don't dig the whole "superstar/god" presentation  (HE'S HERE!  THE GREAT ONE!!!)

I actually really Anne Coulter.  But I wouldn't recommend her to any liberals or borderline conservatives because she's just so abrasive.  I think if you took her ideas and presented them with less vinegar... I think she'd be pretty hard to dismiss.  As is, however...

Which brings me to this question: Is the purpose of a pundit to convince people HE's right?  Or to convince the people listening to the pundit that THEY are right?

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xhonzi said:

I like Beck...

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I actually really Anne Coulter.

I like Beck too, althought I think his first album was overrated.  I never understood what the big deal was about "Loser" anyway.

And I really don't Anne Coulter.

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Which brings me to this question: Is the purpose of a pundit to convince people HE's right?  Or to convince the people listening to the pundit that THEY are right?

 So true. Most of these types exist to make the listener nod, agree, and fume with rage at the unreasonable and evil alternative viewpoints.