Warbler said:
Who needed a drunken rant to know that Mel Gibson hates Jews? In his depiction of the Crucifixion of Christ—who, coincidentally, is portrayed by white actor Jim Caveziel even though everybody knows Black Jesus was black—the Chosen People are a vile, bloodthirsty horde that takes great pleasure in watching God's son suffer for the sins of man. Gibson gets a gold Star of David for this one—David Duke, that is.
everyone knows black Jesus was black? huh? I don't it. Besides, I never thought Jesus was black, I though he was Jewish-middle eastern
I have heard this a lot, so I decided to look into once. It's a pretty slick argument. The people that hold Jesus' blackhood as fact are the same people that start in with, "He didn't exist in the first place. But, if he did, he wouldn't have been white." The genealogy of Jesus as laid out in the Gospels of both Matthew and Luke is that of a Jew of the House of David. While there are some Jews with black skin, they certainly don't outnumber Semitic Jews. So we don't have any reason to expect that he'd be black there... But again, this argument is based on the idea that the New Testament is 100% wrong about Jesus, who never existed, right? So, what "probably" happened is that Mary was impregnated by some lowlife (re: "black guy") and covered it up by claiming it was the Holy Spirit. Therefore: real Jesus (who did not exist) must have been black. Or half black, at any rate.
So when people go on saying that Jesus is black, I think they're just trying to offend people of the Christian faith (because of what they're saying about the legitamacy of the Bible, the holiness of Jesus, and the character of Mary) and apparently also black people since they're not very favourably figured into the story... At least, that's what an hour or two of googling turned up for me. That, and "hip" people like to pretend they know more about Jesus than "stupid Christians" so the "You didn't know he was Black???" thing carries some momentum there, I think. I have no doubt he was a Jew, of similar appearance to other Israel based Semetic Jews of the day, or even today.
also, I think the idea that this movie is bigoted towards Jews is overblown. If you compare the movie to how the Passion story is depicted in the bible, you will find it to be quite accurate.
John chapter 19 verse 11:
Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above:
therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin
Matthew Chapter 27 verse 25
Then answered all the people and said, His blood be on us and on our children
Gibson didn't come up with that stuff on his own, they came from the bible. I agree Gibson himself is a bigot, he movie however is just accurate depiction from the bible.
Yeah, I thought it was stupid to claim that Gibson being accurate to these verses somehow made him and the movie anti-Semitic. It's no more or less Anti-Semitic than the New Testament. But people that wanted to tear down Passion of the Christ probably had no compunction against also tearing down the New Testament.
Wow, Warb. We're in complete agreeance here. Should we be worried? :)