I'd be all for inserting some Z-95s into ROTS. Also, some Clone Wars era Y-wings would be pretty kick ass too.
BTW, I finally figured out how to get 5.1 audio to work in Adobe Premiere, and so it looks like I might be able to get started on my fan edit soon. This weekend/monday I'll probably try to see about doing some color correction on The Phantom Menace, since that will be an important component to my edit.
TheBoost said:
Rogue Leader said:
Okay... Z-95s in the prequels... What do people think? They are the predecessors to the X-wing and Lucas totally forgot about them so they made those Incom Arc, starfighters...
Forgot about them? As with most of the EU I doubt GL even thought about/knew about/gave a damn about them in the first plance
I'm not as familiar with the EU as some of the contributors to this forum.
It appears to be fixed wing (no s-foils)?
If it could be adapted to the X-wing style it would closely resemble early concept paintings for the X-Wing fighter.
The story goes that the S-foil design proved to be more versatile and allowed for more firepower, so the Z-95s was eventually replaced by it. I think a real X-wing kind of mitigates the notion of technological escalation from the war in a way, but I do think Y-Wings make sense because they are supposed to be pretty old in Episode IV, and the only reason they keep them around is because they were built so friggin' tough that they're managed to last 20+ years of service.
TheBoost said:
Forgot about them? As with most of the EU I doubt GL even thought about/knew about/gave a damn about them in the first plance
Heh, I agree Boost, I was being generous. ;)
@Tim, would love to see Y-wings in ROTS absolutely... I think I saw Bingowings bring it up on the very first page too. =)
@Bingo The Z-95 Headhunter actually comes in a bunch of varieties and there are several upgrade kits to install things like hyperdrive, sheild enhancements, engine mods, triple blasters, missles, and an upgrade for an extra set of s-foils to split into an X (which the reason for is for better weapons coverage but all know it just looks cool. lol)... etc. Overall, yes, that Ralph McQuarrie drawing is the basis of that ship as well as the favored Incom T-65B X-wing. =D
Just like the Y-wing, the Z-95 they should be prevailent in the prequel era and I love the simpler design so you can see the evolution into the X-wing. The Arc fighters in ROTS look too complex.
The impossible is what Rogues do best...
Nice clean versions of models in that style would create the impression of continuity between the two trilogies.
That the cutting edge planes of the Clone Wars era become the hot-wired hand me downs that the Rebels have to use in their fight against the Empire.
Bingowings said:
Nice clean versions of models in that style would create the impression of continuity between the two trilogies.
That the cutting edge planes of the Clone Wars era become the hot-wired hand me downs that the Rebels have to use in their fight against the Empire.
yub yub... I agree.
The impossible is what Rogues do best...
In Return of the sith I thought there will be Victory class Star Destroyers as well.
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/d/de/VSD_egvv.jpg
But Lucas ruined my dreams... :'(
Handzzz said:
In Return of the sith I thought there will be Victory class Star Destroyers as well.
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/d/de/VSD_egvv.jpg
But Lucas ruined my dreams... :'(
I KNOW!!!!!! I thought of that too... although I didn't even get the chance to mention that yet cos I was mainly thinking of TPM Revisited... lol
The impossible is what Rogues do best...
This guy needs to be in the PT somewhere. LOL
Yoda's evil brother.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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"Mace Windu never told you what happened to your brother."
"Tell me enough, he did! Tell me you killed him, he did!"
"No...I am your brother."
"Nooooo! True, that is not! Impossible, that is!"
:P
Every 27th customer will get a ball-peen hammer, free!
It would have added some nice depth if Yoda was the goodest jedi and his brother was the meanest sith.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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Actually, who else likes the idea of keeping everything Yoda a singlar mystery that will never be solved in the SW universe? Therefore, I'd like to recommend that Yaddle should go... =P
The impossible is what Rogues do best...
I was bored and i made this mock up of Prequel Yoda... I tried to make him more like the Original puppet, without morphing him with the puppet or anything, just deforming the image.
Maybe i should... but i didnt want to make him as old and thin as in the original trilogy.
That looks better. Yoda should have a slight smile at times.
"Reality leaves a lot to the imagination." – John Lennon
that looks really good!
Impressive... most impressive. =D
The impossible is what Rogues do best...
sans_fi said:
I was bored and i made this mock up of Prequel Yoda... I tried to make him more like the Original puppet, without morphing him with the puppet or anything, just deforming the image.
Maybe i should... but i didnt want to make him as old and thin as in the original trilogy.
Make him a little less green and he will be PERFECT!!!!
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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Nice yoda^
A bit here from me to be more close to quarrie's painting mood
-Angel
Hardly a "radical redux," but it would be cool to see the soundtrack changed in the scene where Palpatine announces the Empire's creation to include "The Emperor Arrives" from the ROTJ soundtrack.
vaderios said:
Nice yoda^
A bit here from me to be more close to quarrie's painting mood
-Angel
Nice!!!
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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vaderios said:
Nice yoda^
A bit here from me to be more close to quarrie's painting mood
-Angel
Now THAT is what I'm talking about! Angel, that is now one of my favorites! It's capturing the spirit of the OT! More! ;)
Attack of the Clones: Alternate Timeline Edit Thread:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/SSWRs-Attack-of-the-Clones-Alternate-Timeline-Edit/id/66888
It's pretty, but why can we see the suns so clearly THROUGH the thick-looking clouds?
Ask him :P
-Angel
Nice painting, I haven't seen that one before. Looks more like haze than actual cloud, but it does look rather odd.
TMBTM said:
Yeah, but Vader's just sick of being the Emperor's puppet - he's power-hungry at this point and wants to rule on his own, not be the underling of someone he knows will never relinquish power. He knows, however, that he's not powerful enough on his own to stop the Emperor - but with Luke at his side, they may win. It has nothing to do with the "rule of two.
Yeah that's true, you can see it that way or (now that we know the PT "rule of two" ) that Vader is also trying to "save his skin" by turning Luke into his own apprentice before the Emperor does. I know that is probably not what Lucas had in mind when he shoot that scene in ESB, but now that we have to deal with the prequels I just try to find ways to live with them ;)
I disagree with this completely. Only when Episode III came along did Lucas start diminishing Vader's power. He went on to push this in that awful Rolling Stone interview.
If you remember ESB, it is Vader who comes up with the idea of turning Luke, not Palpatine. Palpatine simply wants Luke dead.
So I don't think Vader was trying to save his own skin.
Also, I believe that Vader was a true Sith and accepted that his Master would die one day and he would have all that he had. His obligation would be to train an apprentice to keep the line going.
It is only when Luke is discovered that Vader sees that it may be his destiny to take over the galaxy as Emperor and have his son as his apprentice.
Luke's very existence makes Vader question some of his past decisions. Since he doesn't know about Leia, Vader believes Luke is all he has left of Padme, of the Jedi... of that life long gone.
By ROTJ, after Luke refuses his offer, Vader slinks back to Palpatine, to the only life he knows and sits there regretful, filled with self-loathing, and afraid that the Emperor will murder his son because he knows his son will not play ball.
“Anakin had those qualities so rarely seen, exuding an unmistakable confidence and yet still able to touch one’s heart in simply knowing how he was so flawed… wounded.”
