The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 162

Hate the boss (mainly because of the verbal ticks etc)

hate Jar Jar (that ones a given really)

Like Tarpals (as can be seen from my avi) despite the gungaspeak ("No again" etc) and proved that there was promise for them had they been handled properly

Bingowings said:

You'd be surprised, I can't stand them, you can't stand them but there are plenty of people who love the Gungans as they are (and not just undiscriminating toddlers).

The negative reaction is however largely based on how they are presented rather than the idea of them.

Since ROTJ Star Wars has become more than Human Vs Humans with a few robots and aliens.

Once Ackbar turned up on in the Rebel briefing scene (heck Yoda pretty much opened the door to be honest) aliens in battle became an inevitable feature of the prequels.

If they could be turned into creatures you can believe in they become great assets instead of silly asses.

Anyone who likes Gungans has incredibly bad taste. I don't like surprises anyway. =P

Actually in ROTJ... ummm what about the Ewoks? I also know that some people don't like ewoks but no one really utterly HATES them like most people utterly HATE gungans... lol

The thing is, that the gungans are so ridiculous and retarded it's like having them around is a useless plot point... To write in a use for them solely for the sake of using them cos they were in the movie is like keeping a bad scene for the sake of keeping it cos it was in the movie (like the Jabba confronting Han in Docking Bay 94 scene. Useless overall other than to show that Han really did owe Jabba some credits, it's useless.)

So other than that gungan vs droid battle at the end... what use are they? Furthermore if we eliminate 1 of 4 multiple endings the flow could be even better...

Darth Vader said:

If you're not with me, then you're my enemy.

For reference, Ming, "most people" aren't you. We get that you hate the Gungans; we get that you want them completely eliminated from TPM. You don't need to labour that point, we're not trying to make you like them. I don't particularly like them. But to say what amounts to "everyone who doesn't agree with me is an idiot/has incredibly bad taste/should be ignored" is not going to get you much in the way of support around here.

If you don't like something in the movie, make an edit which removes it. That's what we do here. Don't go around demanding other people do the same with their own edits which, at the end of the day, are their own.

RoccondilRinon said:

Darth Vader said:

If you're not with me, then you're my enemy.

 

For reference, Ming, "most people" aren't you. We get that you hate the Gungans; we get that you want them completely eliminated from TPM. You don't need to labour that point, we're not trying to make you like them. I don't particularly like them. But to say what amounts to "everyone who doesn't agree with me is an idiot/has incredibly bad taste/should be ignored" is not going to get you much in the way of support around here.

If you don't like something in the movie, make an edit which removes it. That's what we do here. Don't go around demanding other people do the same with their own edits which, at the end of the day, are their own.

Point taken... this is actually why I avoided posting on the OT.com for a long time. I have a bad habit of defending a point till it seems like I'm attacking others. In all reality it's only my opinion in which people could agree (or not) but I never said anyone was an idiot. However, I do like being complete in an analysis using the information in which I have on hand concerning the SW universe as well as production (which is a lot...). I apologize if it came across as picking a fight which was not my intention.

Actually, I think I'll stop posting in this section. I'm not looking to pick a fight. My main intention was to help Adywan in his edits concerning ESB:R at the moment. The prequel isn't something I didn't think anyone could fix and now that he said he'd go head to head with them it actually gives me hope and I'd like to see the best version/edit possible while driving a story that finally makes sense. Ah well... no big.

Oh and quoting Anakin like that... Dude, I didn't come here to make enemies and to remotely make a comparison like that is invalid. We can agree to disagree and I'm fine with that. I hope everyone has fun with their own edits if everyone is doing one. All my intention to begin with is to assist Ady with his versions. If he uses my ideas, cool, if not... no big... In the end making it better is all that counts.

Also... I didn't know other people were making their own edits... lol Had I known this I wouldn't have engaged others in their individual story versions here with such umm... gusto? lol...

My bad, as much knowledge and random crap I know about SW in a variety of facets the OT.com is new territory and I did not mean to step on anyone's toes or ideas. I am an noob here in that respect as I thought this was posting set up to recommend stuff to Ady that he may take note of... I suppose the title didn't specifically say "Revisited" so I assume other people are making their own edits as well? Either way... have fun. =)

Bingowings said:

I imagine most, if not all of us are excited at the prospect of PT:R (even if it's many years away) but the general mission statement of this thread is to work out ideas.

If Ady likes some of these ideas I hope he runs with them (I'm sure he has loads already) but it's not the PT:R thread (there isn't even an ROTJ:R thread yet as Ady is still working hard on ESB:R as much as he currently can).

It's for anyone to use, some of those ideas have already been (either independent of this thread or part inspired by it) become re-edit projects, some on the way, some already complete.

Mr Frink has a fine list of edits most of which came before or were independent of this thread and they continue to serve as inspiration for the ideas on here because we can see what has already been proven to work and where there may be room for continued improvement.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/TVFs-Prequel-Cutlist-Project-Added-Horace-EP-2/topic/10770/

This thread is more to do with ideas that really shake up the prequels than nibble at the edges so your ideas are very welcome on here.

Don't think we are trying to shoot any of your ideas down or that you are shooting anyone else's down.

Talking things through promotes creativity and points up holes in reworking the stories just as well if not better than sitting at mixing desk or pushing pixels around.

Let's face it if George had spent more time trying to think the PT through it wouldn't be the mess a lot of us think it currently is.

I for one am very keen to hear how you would work your clone tech story line into TPM.

Hopefully by talking it through it can be developed into a much more solid story thread than the taxation of trade routes.

Yeah true enough... I'm still gonna lay low concerning topics or ideas here cos if I decide to engage someone on a possible hole in the plots then it may just go too far. Not saying I don't have self control or anything it's just that if I only half heartedly make my statements then it just seems I'd only half heartedly support my own thoughts what ever they maybe. I get excited like everyone else and I can rant for days. This is the trouble with knowing way too much info and wanting to spill it in one all encompassing post.

I'm sure there are things all of us want to see (or not see) and for TPM it'll take the most work because of that. Then again it'll be at least 4 or 5 years before Ady get to that so who know what will happen between now and then. Although I think Ady and his squad of wizards definitely could fill in a hole in TPM vacated by wiping the Gungans out... lol.

Sorry if bringing up Ady's work is repetitive but at least to me and my squadron, they've done the impossible and I think they may even out do themselves with ESB:R (and that's saying something, trust me on this one... XD). With that in mind I would love to see a story for TPM:R that is possible and actually make sense while focusing on the major plots going on with Anakin's story arc and the galaxy as a whole. Thus me being overly excited for everything Revisited since being asked to help by Ady is making me think impossible things are possible. It's what Rogues do best after all. XD

Rogue leader there are many of us here including myself who have 'gone too far' but we have learnt how to stop ourselves from doing that. If you can explain yourself correctly then people will not think you are being aggresive. There's a difference between a debate and an arguement. Debates create progress and arguements create arguements. Dont hold back Rogue Leader, just dont argue thats all.

I think people often refer to Ady due to the fact that he has done some amazing work that has become quite famous in the editing world, he has become a editing idol of sorts, dont get me wrong there are amazin edits out there but Adywan is like the face of star wars edits. Like Hulk Hogan of old professional wrestling. Its just an automatic response in a way.

Thanks, RL.

(Btw the Darth Vader quote was mostly just for the lulz.)

RoccondilRinon said:

Thanks, RL.

(Btw the Darth Vader quote was mostly just for the lulz.)

lol, it's kinda like Godwin's Law... but in this case when a debate goes on for a while someone makes the comparison to Vader and the Empire. =P

Okay... Z-95s in the prequels... What do people think? They are the predecessors to the X-wing and Lucas totally forgot about them so they made those Incom Arc, starfighters...

I personally would love to see the Z-95 because during this time the Z-95 would be a new fighter craft AND they have a similar silohette to the X-wing...

Hell yeah 

with a few tweaks it would be perfect (somewhere for an R2 unit)

anything is better than those Jedi starfighter et all

BarBar Jinkx said:

Hell yeah 

 

with a few tweaks it would be perfect (somewhere for an R2 unit)

 

anything is better than those Jedi starfighter et all

Actually I like the Delta 7 Jedi Starfighters... I was just thinking that the Z-95s should be an awesome ship to have that should be around in the prequels but isn't. It's also a nice lil nod to the furture X-wing starfighter cos the Arc starfighters look kinda insane... I think the opening scene with the Jedi ambassador's corvette they should have a squadron of these as escort. When the ambush occurs after Palpatine says "kill them immediately" then have the TF ships open up with their guns destroying the squadron or maybe even have a couple of the pilots escape to the other side of the planet if the story calls for another characters POV concerning any new story plot line put in to TPM (if there is one... =D). 

Rogue Leader said:

BarBar Jinkx said:

Hell yeah 

 

with a few tweaks it would be perfect (somewhere for an R2 unit)

 

anything is better than those Jedi starfighter et all

 

Actually I like the Delta 7 Jedi Starfighters... I was just thinking that the Z-95s should be an awesome ship to have that should be around in the prequels but isn't. It's also a nice lil nod to the furture X-wing starfighter cos the Arc starfighters look kinda insane... I think the opening scene with the Jedi ambassador's corvette they should have a squadron of these as escort. When the ambush occurs after Palpatine says "kill them immediately" then have the TF ships open up with their guns destroying the squadron or maybe even have a couple of the pilots escape to the other side of the planet if the story calls for another characters POV concerning any new story plot line put in to TPM (if there is one... =D). 

why is it I instantly thought Pink5's mom when you said that LOL

BarBar Jinkx said:

Rogue Leader said:

...if the story calls for another characters POV concerning any new story plot line put in to TPM (if there is one... =D). 

why is it I instantly thought Pink5's mom when you said that LOL

Some of my friends helped with the Return of Pink5 Endor ground battle. =D