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ABC
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¤ THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK ¤ The "OPTIMUM EDITION" Score Reconstruction, Remixing & Restoration Version 3 (Released)
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12-Feb-2010, 10:57 AM

ABC said:

msycamore said:

I'm not saying that Tomlinson's tracks is free from problems, but his original filmmixes are imo.

Do you think he's responsible of both the Sountrack and Film versions? Well, that's something I don't quite well unserstand... (If there's a difference I mean)

What I observe is that...

  • the original RSO soundtrack gives a strong relief to some instruments that are unheard or spoiled on the Anthology. (ringing instruments, percussions, flutes etc...) and a completely different touch to the sound... So are they still to be called "Tomlinson mixes" on the Anthology ?
  • That the SE uses the exact same mixes from the Anthology for the non-Risner tracks ...

Conclusion (imo): the RSO version rules.

 Well, that discussion has become interesting so far, so here are some answers according to the awesome stuff I could read ;) :

The Anthology uses mostly the Tomlinson filmmixes untouched (though they're far from a 1st generation copy). What I thought to be the Anthology signature - the large stereo - is finally Tomlinson signature. This is how he's rendered the sound for the film.

The RSO uses the original master tapes, and John Williams with an assistant deal with the sound in an other way: they narrowed the stereo image, they added compression, reverb, and perhaps some EQ's. Plus, they highlighted some parts of the multi-tracks: that's why we hear some instruments unheard in the other mixes.

The SE (after my own observations) tried on the Tomlinson mixes the same processes that has been done on the RSO, mostly compression and narrowing the stereo... And perhaps reverb. Unfortunately, it is not very well managed. Anyway, the "Tomlinson mixes" are not to be called that much on the SE.

Anyway, my choicse are confirmed once for all. And if the Tomlinson mixes are quite alright for the film with their envelopping stereo, I largely prefer the J. Williams remixes from the high quality RSO recordings as a material for remixing, and as the definitive reference for the best listening experience.

And for what is about compression and reverb, here's surely what I tend to compensate with my EQ as far as I don't use such processes. Always trying to get what is the more natural of course.

Hoping it makes all clear ;)