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Vaderisnothayden
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RedLetterMedia's Revenge of Nadine [TPM 108 pg Resp. [RotS Review+RotS Preview+ST'09 Reveiw+Next Review Teaser+2002 Interview+AotC OutTakes+Noooooo! Doc.+SW Examiner Rebuttal+AotC Review+TPM Review]
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9-Feb-2010, 7:26 PM

zombie84 said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

 

As to non-ST fans, WOK is usually the only film any of them can stand in my experience, and STIV was by far one of the more critically and commercially successfull of the series, which implicates a strong non-fan approval (I would say precisely because it is the least Star Treky all the films).

Well, that's back in the early 80s. The sort of artificial character portrayal that the film goes in for would make it less popular if it were released now, because films go in for that sort of thing less nowadays. And some people developed their view of the film back in the 80s and never got around to revising their view in recent times. Plenty ordinary moviegoers, if shown that film, would think it was pretty lame. 

 This is a circular argument. It was recieved well in the 80s because thats when it was made. Its probably true that it wouldn't be recieved well today because it doesn't adhere to current fashions and trends--because its 30 years out of touch with those very fashions and trends! Because it was...you know, made in the 80s? You can only evaluate a movie's construction in the context of when it was made, not 30 years into the future. If it were made today, it would be quite different, and very likely conform to the fashions and trends in filmmaking that you feel is lacking in the film (because, you know, they didn't exist). This is basically like complaining that a movie from the 1920s doesn't have sound or colour.

You're totally missing my point. You said people of a non-fan type would like the film, so I pointed out a reason why they wouldn't. It doesn't matter whether their reason would be just. All that matters is that they wouldn't like the film.