zombie84 said:
I think you are approaching Khan in the wrong way VINH. It's hammy and over the top--and that's what's great about it. Shakespear is hammy and over the top, too, and that's what is enjoyable about it a lot of the time, you can relish in the pure cartoonish stylization of it. Khan is a masterpiece, and a big part of that is the fact that you have Khan and Kirk as these two really big personalities, the film is almost like a sophisticated comic book.
I have to agree, I never heard of ANYONE disliking WOK while liking the others, and certainly haven't heard of anyone liking ST V more than any other film, least of all WOK. There's a reason why critics, audiences, and fans alike have been hailing the film for 25 years as a great film, let alone the best in the series. "I'm not crazy, EVERYONE ELSE is crazy!!" But to each his own. I find this sort of view incredibly bizarre--I have to wonder, if you think ST V is the second-best in the original series and WOK among the worst, what exactly are you looking for in a ST film? I'm not being rhetorical here, I'm just curious as this viewpoint is the inverse of almost every other person on the planet that has seen the films.
I think you are approaching Khan in the wrong way VINH. It's hammy and over the top--and that's what's great about it. Shakespear is hammy and over the top, too, and that's what is enjoyable about it a lot of the time, you can relish in the pure cartoonish stylization of it. Khan is a masterpiece, and a big part of that is the fact that you have Khan and Kirk as these two really big personalities, the film is almost like a sophisticated comic book.
Shakespeare's over the top hamminess works. WOK's doesn't. Khan and Kirk don't come off like two big personalities -they come off like two big mistakes. Particularly Khan. Kirk not all the time, just when Shatner's hamming too much. Montalban's performance is like nails on a chalkboard. I would not use the word "masterpiece", let alone "sophisticated", for WOK. It's a dumb, poorly-made, childish movie.
There's a reason why critics, audiences, and fans alike have been hailing the film for 25 years as a great film, let alone the best in the series.
There's a reason for everything, but it's not always the reason you think it is. I think WOK's popularity has a lot to do with the human capacity for herd-thinking.
what exactly are you looking for in a ST film?
A decent movie. I don't say "This is a Trek movie, so I'll make an exception for it and accept all sorts of ridiculous bullshit".
I'm not being rhetorical here, I'm just curious as this viewpoint is the inverse of almost every other person on the planet that has seen the films.
You don't know the views of almost every person who's seen the film. And in so many eras, to not be a bigot you had pretty much have the inverse of the views of most people, so having the inverse of the view of the majority doesn't making my view wrong.