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Blade Runner: The Complete Music Collection (work-in-progress) — Page 12

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OT - Merry Christmas everyone!

focuspuller,

Hope 2010 brings better times for your family.  My wife's due date has been moved up a week, so I'm down to my last few weeks of hobby time, at least for a while...  ;)

 

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Hello everybody,

New to this forum, have just discovered it.

Focuspuller, your project sounds soooo exciting! What a labour of love! A huge archaeological project I can only admire and support.

Having spent quite a lot of time working BR's various audio files myself in order to create a private BR release (like many other BR fans apparently) that would please me, I totally understand your goal and also appreciate how difficult and complex this task is. The original material looks like a bit of a chaos, having been cut and mixed so many times by music editors. But you're right, it's worth it as Blade Runner has been waiting for 25 years for a soundtrack album that would do full justice to its legendary score.

Not that I dislike the official Trilogy (I really enjoy it very much, well done Vangelis (and Frederick), but honestly I miss a fourth CD that would contain all the unreleased material in pure, soundFX-free form.

Or, even better, a complete collection!

Can't wait to hear it, but of course no stress, take all the time you need!

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1187hunterwasser you have the coolest name I've seen on these forums in many a year.  You're welcome in this thread to be sure.

I am fluent in over six million forms of procrastination.
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Does anyone else use this soundtrack to relax?

 

Had a particularly stressful evening last night and it helped me fall asleep.  Used to use it all the time in college for that purpose.

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digitalfreaknyc said:

Does anyone else use this soundtrack to relax?

 

Had a particularly stressful evening last night and it helped me fall asleep.  Used to use it all the time in college for that purpose.

 

Yup, all the time.. and yes.. I also used it in college too!! 


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Absolutely!!! It definitely calms me, and puts my mind at ease! Highly recommended if no one has tried to yet.

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digitalfreaknyc said:

Does anyone else use this soundtrack to relax?

Yes, definetely. I like it even better when it's raining outside and I can hear the sound of raindrops in the background...

One of my favourite tracks is "Leon's Voigt Kampff Test" - the version with the soft sequencer sound.

By the way, I've read somewhere that this synth is not played by Vangelis, and that it had been added by a bootlegger...

Does anyone know more about this rumour?

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Deleted by admin...

Your second post, whenever it arrives, had better be more productive than your first.

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If you have the ability to release the complete soundtrack, why not do it yourself instead of bitching about someone else taking too long?  Especially when you claim to have better source material ...

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Chainsaw ash.. I concur... weird that there have been 2 nasty trolls on this thread recently...


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Mmmmh ?...

First time I visit this part of the forum. Perhaps I'd better have post my ESB score restoration project here. Looks like soundtracks fans don't expect to have anything interesting in the SW OT preservation efforts section.

Anyway cool to hear about such projects, even if I haven't grown up with Vangelis or Blade Runner as references. ;)

For the heads up, may I add I'm about to finish the 4th version of my current project. So yes, better take the time it needs and do it right once for all.

Take care.

ESB AUDIOPHILE EDITION

 

The EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Score: "All-Sourced" Restoration & Sonic Achievement.

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I concur ABC, it is better to do it right the first time. But samples of works in progress are also nice.

I'm really tired of 20 versions of the same tracks with updating versions (this goes for SW as well as Blade runner) making it a nightmare, wondering which version is best/most complete/most accurate.

I may have previously expressed my opinions about some decision our host has related, but I am none the less anxious to hear what he has done because, from the descriptions he has posted here, he is truly doing something that will be completely different. As opposed to the multitude of 'Esper Editions' (real or fake) that are floating around and really don't differ much at all musically. I noticed the same thing recently with the various Revenge of the Sith 'Extended' scores. I am rather picky about my music, especially when it is so dear to me as Vangelis or John Williams.

I hope Fucuspuller can get back to this project in the near future, but he has one of the best excuses possible for the current delay, however long it might be. No real rush. Some of us have been waiting 27 years for the music he has hinted at.

 

(p.s. sorry, don't know why I always seem to be so long winded for simple posts)

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yotsuya said:

I'm really tired of 20 versions of the same tracks with updating versions (this goes for SW as well as Blade runner) making it a nightmare, wondering which version is best/most complete/most accurate.

 A bit off-topic here but not off-forum, if it's about the "prequels" for the SW scores, the only way is to check every bootleg, puting all the same tracks together on Foobar or whatever, and compare them. There's no best one and are all unequal. compil them and remix them in your way... Is the only way. Is it really worth ? For you to see.

But for the OT it's not too hard. Nobody worked on it excepted GoodMusician... And another one.

ESB AUDIOPHILE EDITION

 

The EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Score: "All-Sourced" Restoration & Sonic Achievement.

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ChainsawAsh said:

If you have the ability to release the complete soundtrack, why not do it yourself instead of bitching about someone else taking too long?  Especially when you claim to have better source material ...

Dear ChainsawAsh,

first I must say that I was very surprised that my first post on this topic was deleted. And I must state it here clearly again: I'm not bitching about Focuspullers project for taking too long - I was simply wondering about the fact that somebody announces a project two years ago which seemed to be disappeared somewhere in the belt of Orion..., that's all. About your question for better source material: I have no idea what sources Focuspuller uses, so I'm not in the position of claiming to have better ones. I simply told that I worked for Warner Bros.Germany when the Blade Runner DVD Box Set was prepared, so I was able to get a private copy of the music track which was used for the final mix - and that's not the tape Focuspuller wanted to use, simply most tracks were cut, delayed etc. The pure music (without sound effects which were created in part by Vangelis himself) which ended up in the film is about 65 minutes - and that's all...everything you hear on the bootlegs etc. are, in most parts, longer versions (On The Trail Of Nexus 6, Memories Of Green etc.), so the work of Focuspuller is still very interesting. And: I loose my job on Warner cause I made private copies of some film soundtracks for myself, so you must understand that I'm not really willing to share it somewhere in the net where it can be part of a legal action (and it seems that to Focuspuller exactly this happened last September, as he wrote).

I was wondering about another thing: that criticism seems not to be allowed here. I found it very interesting what Yotsuya posted here, cause it sums up a little bit what Focuspuller works on: to use every possible source to get the best sounding and longest version of what Vangelis has composed for Blade Runner. But it is, simply, just another bootleg - only the best sounding and longest, and Focuspuller stated a few times before that he uses bootleg sources as well as others. I can't see why this shows disrespect to his work ? You can't only call it otherwise until it's released on a regular record label - so I don't see why Yotsuya said something wrong...

And the reason why I don't think that his project will be finished: it simply takes too long, that was all...and that is simply my personal opinion. After re-reading all posts on this topic (and I wished others would do so !) it's simply a work in progress which has come to a standstill a few months ago. After announcing it two years ago, Focuspuller still asked weeks and months later for music, logos, pictures...a year ago he released a tracklist for the first three discs which seemed nearly completed (see page 1), and again - nothing happened...on Oct.2008 he wrote: "I am trying to get this project completed between the next two months...", on May 6th 2009 and in Sept.2009 he announced a kind of "workprint" or pre-release which never happened...and I read all this posts with a kind of amusement. It would be wonderful if Focuspuller's work sees the light of the day in the future, and I would be one of the first ones to congratulate him for this amount of work...but his reactions on some posts here (for the ones of Yotsuya, f.e.) is a little bit strange and hard to understand for me cause they are a little bit rude and harsh, a little bit like "huh, somebody catched me...", so I lost my believe in a release...

My best wishes for Focuspuller for his work, and I hope he can bring it to an end before November 2012...

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“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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teriweigel said:

I worked for Warner Bros.Germany when the Blade Runner DVD Box Set was prepared, so I was able to get a private copy of the music track which was used for the final mix - and that's not the tape Focuspuller wanted to use, simply most tracks were cut, delayed etc. The pure music (without sound effects which were created in part by Vangelis himself) which ended up in the film is about 65 minutes - and that's all...

Hi teriweigel,

First time I hear that Vangelis created some of the sound effects used in the movie. Thought they had all been created by the Sound designer. Now that's very interesting! Can you tell us more about which sound on which cue for example?

Do you mean that the music track used in the Final Cut was 65-minute long, with all the tracks already cut and delayed? I would be curious to know the track listing.

Sorry for your job... Must have been very tempting there indeed for a music fan.

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1187hunterwasser, teriweigel may be right. In listening to the DVD audio to see if I could extract anything better (and failing usually), I think some of the sound effects are syth and could be by Vangelis. I'm not saying he is right, just that he could be. Not everything in a film happens exactly as credited.

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yotsuya said:

In listening to the DVD audio to see if I could extract anything better (and failing usually), I think some of the sound effects are syth and could be by Vangelis.

Oh yes, I remember thinking that some of the Esper machine bleeps sounded just like they'd been played on a Yamaha CS80 - actually the four ones heard just before Deckard says "Track 45 left" ("Main Titles", 0:36, 1994 Warner release).

Also, that woosh sound heard many times during the movie. I have heard a version of "Deckard Enters The Bradbury" which has no sound effects but where the woosh sound can be heard during amost of the track. Who knows?

Much has been said about whether the Blade Runner soundtrack is to be appreciated with or without sound effects. I personally think: both ways! but I know many people who are craving for the purity of the original sound-FX free cues only. Maybe it would change slightly the debate if it would appear that Vangelis has played some!

Actually the Master himself did it both ways: while the Trilogy's CD1 (= 1994 album) has sound effects and dialogs from the movie, CD 2 has none...

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By the way, although probably everybody here knows this link already, I think it's interesting because it put the right titles on the unreleased BR tracks:

http://repertoire.bmi.com/writer.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&page=1&fromrow=1&torow=25&querytype=WriterID&keyid=259951&keyname=PAPATHANASSIOU%20EVANGHELOS&CAE=54407690&Affiliation=BUMA

If this direct link doesn't work, search PAPATHANASSIOU EVANGHELOS from http://www.bmi.com

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Hi Chaps,

 

It has been exactly 2 years since I first announced this project. In that time a lot has happened, both for me and others. Lives continue to be lived, for better or worse, some were just created this year, and some as can happen in families (mine bieng no exception) have passed on.

To be sure, I have been very busy for different reasons in different ways, but this labour of love continues. I do not have the luxary of time to only work on this project or it would be done by now, and frankly, my now 8 month old child, family, work, etc, are more important.

Having said that, work continues, and this project WILL be completed, and as others have stated, it will be done the right way. As I've also stated before, just because I don't post progress in one moment or another doesn't mean there isn't any.

 

I thank you all very much for your support, and I look forward to giving you an update very soon.

 

 

Blade Runner: The Complete Collection

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focuspuller said:

Hi Chaps,

 

It has been exactly 2 years since I first announced this project. In that time a lot has happened, both for me and others. Lives continue to be lived, for better or worse, some were just created this year, and some as can happen in families (mine bieng no exception) have passed on.

To be sure, I have been very busy for different reasons in different ways, but this labour of love continues. I do not have the luxary of time to only work on this project or it would be done by now, and frankly, my now 8 month old child, family, work, etc, are more important.

Having had had that, work continues, and this project WILL be completed, and as other have stated, it will be done the right way. As I've also stated before, just because I don't post progress in one moment or another doesn't mean there isn't any.

 

I thank you all very much for your support, and I look forward to giving you an update very soon.

 

 

Thank you for the update. Your dedication to this project and willingness to share it with this community is commendable and much appreciated.

FF

 

“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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1187hunterwasser said:

By the way, although probably everybody here knows this link already, I think it's interesting because it put the right titles on the unreleased BR tracks:

http://repertoire.bmi.com/writer.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&page=1&fromrow=1&torow=25&querytype=WriterID&keyid=259951&keyname=PAPATHANASSIOU%20EVANGHELOS&CAE=54407690&Affiliation=BUMA

If this direct link doesn't work, search PAPATHANASSIOU EVANGHELOS from http://www.bmi.com

Wow. Interesting. Unless I'm mistaken, there seems to be a lot of titles for unused cues ("Oriental Music on Television", "Zhora Tries To Kill Deckard"), and there also seems to be fragments of "Wounded Animals" scattered about ("Outside The Building", "Where Are You Going"). Perhaps those fragments were abandoned or just combined into the longer track "Wounded Animals". And is "Chinatown Club" referring to both sets of club music, or just the part with Demis Roussos's vocals? So many questions...

 

Anyhow, looking forward to your update, focuspuller!

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy

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Hey focupuller,

Great to hear you're update with this project!  DEFINITELY family and work first. The previous "comment" doesn't seem to put a fork in your road, as they say.  I'm sure I am one of the many who will gladly remain patient.  As the saying says "...all good thing to those who wait..."

:-)