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Just a heads-up for anyone who might be interested: there appears to be a bit of a babyhum flood going on in a.b.starwars at the moment.

Thanks to the uploader, whoever you are.

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Hello all.

Long time no see.

I'm glad to see the scene is still thriving here and lots of fantastic projects are still in the works.

As you know it's been a while since my last release. I had great fun doing my set of DVD's but then real life took over. (It's a very time consuming process as many of you authors know).

I've been toying for a while with the idea of releasing some new material and also rereleasing some of the older stuff in a better quality format. I just want to know if there's any interest out there for it.

I'm not promising it's definitely going to happen but it would be nice to get some feedback.

This weekend I'm going to experiment with bh001 (Clapperboard). I'm going to try encoding it with h264 video and lossless PCM audio and see what comes out at the other end. I'll be using Handbrake on the Mac. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Good to see everyone keeping this place alive.

Regards

bh

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I just want to know if there's any interest out there for it.

 

Of course there is, don't be silly.  Welcome back.

On this Clapperboard (v3) work, will it require a new cap from the beta source.  Or do you still have the original cap, and are trying to improve the compression of that source?  

Handbrake was the only Mac program I could find which could burn in subtitles, so its great that way.  Last I heard they were going to drop divx, as mp4 and mkv seem to be taking over.

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I just want to know if there's any interest out there for it.

 

 

On this Clapperboard (v3) work, will it require a new cap from the beta source.  Or do you still have the original cap, and are trying to improve the compression of that source?  

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The source is the original DV capture I did directly from the Betamax original. I'll be deinterlacing, possibly upscaling to 1920x1080 with pillar box and containing it in an mkv file.

I'll let you know how I progress

bh

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Of course there is, don't be silly.  Welcome back.

 BH, as I can see none is interest !... hehe... errrr....

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Since you're working with the new updated Handbrake this might not be relevant now, but something to consider for the future.

(aside)

Although h264 is a current standard and focus of Handbrake's updates, have you looked into Ogg Theora?  It's an open source standard very comparitable to h264.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theora

The hopefully implemented soon upgrade of Wikipedia to include video in all pages will rely on Ogg Theora as their codec.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-10289952-248.html

Archive.org is another supporter of the format.  But these two sites have the open source nature as one of their primary decision making forces.

here's some articles on the h264 vs Theora debate:

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/06/html-5-ogg-theora-vs-h264-in-the-battle-for-a-web-video-standard/

http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/07/decoding-the-html-5-video-codec-debate.ars

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I'd be interested in a revamped Clapperboard as well.  I think I'd only download stuff from '77 to before 1997, but I'm definitely curious.

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I'm definitely very interested in any new developments.  Welcome back, babyhum...though I haven't been around here much myself lately due to real life distractions, I try to always step up and take notice when there's any news from your front.

Keep us posted on what you've got in mind, whether it's revisiting old work in higher quality or doing some new releases.  I'll offer any help I can give, even if it's just enthusiastic encouragement!

--SKot

Projects:
Return Of The Ewok and Other Short Films (with OCPmovie) [COMPLETED]
Preserving the…cringe…Star Wars Holiday Special [COMPLETED]
The Star Wars TV Commercials Project [DORMANT]
Felix the Cat 1919-1930 early film shorts preservation [ONGOING]
Lights Out! (lost TV anthology shows) [ONGOING]
Iznogoud (1995 animated series) English audio preservation [ONGOING]

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Very briefly: Did a short test. It's hard to notice any difference when you have source material that is now nearly 30 years old! I might put a test up online for everyone to download. I do want some advice on something though. I want to resize the frame (not the image itself) to 1920x1080. This will pillar box the image. The original footage is DV so what's the easiest way of doing this?

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My advice is: don't. Let the display device scale the image. By upscaling to HD, you'll just increase the filesize massively and the end result is almost certanly not going to be as good as letting the TV do it (especially if it's a Samsung; sweet!).

If you must, and assuming your input is 720x480 NTSC DV, you'll want to crop to 704x480 (this eliminates the nominal analogue blanking area; don't worry if there are active pixels there, they were never meant to be seen). Then scale up to 1440x1080 and add borders to 1920x1080.

The important thing to note is that DV doesn't have square pixels, but HD does.

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Side question - when something is produced for 24fps HD, is it still NTSC or PAL or is all that out the window?  I thought part of the long term goal of HD and digital signals was to eliminate NTSC/PAL/SECAM/etc. and have all TVs and discs in the world be universally compatible with each other.  I'm just figuring that if he's going to be redoing projects, might as well try to "future-proof" them as much as possible.

My outlook on life - we’re all on the Hindenburg anyway…no point fighting over the window seat.

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NTSC and PAL are SD analogue broadcast standards - it's mostly just convenience that has seen the abbreviations carry forward into digital systems.

We're still stuck with different broadcast frame rates in different countries, but European TVs have been coping with NTSC signals for years. Someone in another thread said the inverse isn't necessarily true, which is pretty stupid.

There's very little point doing a "PAL" conversion of an "NTSC" project, because a) it's hard to do well and b) we can all play NTSC anyway, even with quite an old CRT screen. And there's little point doing an HD up-conversion for the reasons I've already outlined above.

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I'm in the US, so I'm on NTSC, but I was thinking in the other direction.  I have some of Hum's discs that are in PAL and while they will play, I do notice a little stuttering every now and then or some PAL-to-NTSC speedup.  I figured that since the HD standards are an attempt to eliminate the differences between the analog formats, that that would be the way to go with his re-releases.

My outlook on life - we’re all on the Hindenburg anyway…no point fighting over the window seat.

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It depends on the content of the disc, and I'm not familiar with the rest of hum's work. If it's a documentary that was originally NTSC and (somehow) got converted to PAL and that was the source for the disc, I'd recommend converting back to NTSC rather than going up to HD, which would be using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. Personally, I'd take a true original-PAL->NTSC conversion over a PAL->HD upscale.

The difference in picture resolution, which in HD has at least been more-or-less standardised to 720p or 1080i, was never much of a problem. The biggy is the frame rate, and we're still shooting and broadcasting in 25p/50i over here (it might be that movie channels are doing 23.976/24p, but I don't know). I think it'll be a long time before we see the back of PAL speedup (though at least some broadcasters/DVDs are now resampling the audio with minimal artifacts).

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Welcome back bh, good to see one of the most valuable contributors from the forum's early days is back again.

I must say I would tend to agree with DE's points about upscaling. I would also recommend that you do not deinterlace, assuming the source is pure interlaced material - deinterlacing (as opposed to IVTC) is always destructive.

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Just thought I'd mention that I'm NTSC but have watched a few PAL fan edits, and I always notice the speed-up.  Dialogue sounds as if it has been slightly affected by helium.

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Dear Babyhum.

Could you please point me where could I get your editions besides usenet. I am missing those parts:

Volume 12 - A Long Time Ago… The Story Of Star Wars

Volume 14 - Star Wars Episode 1 The Phantom Menace: The UK Premiere

Volume 15 - Attack Of The Clones – The U.K. Premiere

Rapidshare Dlc files for those parts are not active any more :(

Some time ago someone informed me that they are available on MYSPLEEN too but open subscription is not available - could someone send me invitation please or any other suggestion?

Best Wishes

 

 

 

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Babyhum you are amazing.

Thank you so much. You have fantastic archival talent and sense.

Best Wishes.

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Hello all,

In order to release the long awaited bh019 I'm going to need a little help from the more technically savvy of you wonderful people.

I have recorded a show from Channel 4 HD here in the UK on my Humax HDR Freesat box in UNencrypted non-Freesat mode. It plays fine in VLC, but I want to remove the commercials and top and tail the rubbish AND keep it lossless. 

I've tried loading the .TS file into TMPGenc MPEG editor 3 but it tells me there is no video track.

VideoREDO suite will save the file after editing with a filesize of 0kb.

ProjectX will not detect the video track.

It will convert into an MKV container (my new release method of choice) but unedited.

The video is h264 and the audio is AC3 which is why I want to use MPEG Editor 3 to get rid of the garbage.

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards

bh

P.S. If you haven't yet checked out JD's 'Raiding The Lost Ark', do so immediately

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Re: Vegas - Is it frame accurate and lossless?