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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 151
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I concur!
Now lets think where HAL can be in :)
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I still think the best solution is the Phantom Editor's "Kamino system" dub over the Zam death scene.
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I prefer the idea of Zam not making it too easy for the two guys who just got her killed. I think her last breath would be reserved for cussing Fett or the Jedi.
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Octorox said:
I still think the best solution is the Phantom Editor's "Kamino system" dub over the Zam death scene.
Agreed - removes the 'investigation' entirely, which would help the pace a lot I'd imagine.
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Octorox said:
I still think the best solution is the Phantom Editor's "Kamino system" dub over the Zam death scene.
That's what I also did in my individual EP2 edit (except I just gave Zam subtitles saying "in the Kamino System" instead of dubbing him/her/it), but for my 3-in-1 SOTOR edit, I needed to edit the toxic dart into something else entirely since the entire "Zam" subplot was removed from the story (so I just redubed the droid in the deleted "Dart Analysis" scene to change the dart into part of an explosive and gives Obi-Wan the info he needs about Kamino)
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Has anyone attempted too add Dooku to the Jedi council scenes in TPM. That would look very interesting.
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JasonN said:
Octorox said:
I still think the best solution is the Phantom Editor's "Kamino system" dub over the Zam death scene.
That's what I also did in my individual EP2 edit (except I just gave Zam subtitles saying "in the Kamino System" instead of dubbing him/her/it), but for my 3-in-1 SOTOR edit, I needed to edit the toxic dart into something else entirely since the entire "Zam" subplot was removed from the story (so I just redubed the droid in the deleted "Dart Analysis" scene to change the dart into part of an explosive and gives Obi-Wan the info he needs about Kamino)
Hey JasonN all i can say is i enjoyed ur video with the droid analysis scene. I was thinking about people saying why is there a screen and a tube for the dart to go in, maybe you could edit it so the machine that scans the dart does more than just look at the dart, maybe a a test that looks at what metal was used or something to that degree, something that can kinda get Obi Wan into the galactic area. Maybe the scanner could have a radioactive thing that could be harmful to Obi in large quantities if he in that area, maybe have the tube be able to suck out the radioactiveness? Maybe as the thing gets scanned the room turns green with green laser or something to that affect, will try and do some mockups to visually show you what i mean.
In a nutshell, maybe the type of metal used to create the saber dart comes from the Kamino area, Obi Wan then goes to libary to find Kamino in the charts and isnt there. Adds a bit more to the detective plot. Not so much tracking the bounty hunter himself, more about finding the planet the dart came from. The again you could always have Obi go to Geonosis instead perhaps? I dunno just threw some ideas out there.
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If Episode II started with clone troops created with the blessing of the Republic as a force to counter the potential threat of the Seperatists and the vote being against actual deployment.
The data from the dart could lead to Geonosis instead (that is a lead that actually leads somewhere).
When the Seperatists condemn Padme, Anakin and Obi-Wan to death Palpatine uses this as an excuse to deploy the troops that everyone knows about.
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I was discussing this with johnnyringo.
How about general grievous is like a HAL computer that controls the battle droids with its exceptional general leadings... So we can have less fancy action and return to old claustrophobic feeling.. No coughings no 4 sabers just some 80s cold english man voice to set some values about human and robot discussions. General HAL can be from the TPM under teh commands of trade federation until like brainiac from superman takes the lead for some reason.
We can have a machine vs man concept. Until Vader comes that he is the first that combines that 2 elements. Machine and man.
General HAL can create many plot twists and lead the jedi to wrong conclusions. Or at the end how can this happened? We are smarter than this(a computer) or maybe not.
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Its meant to remove general as we know him. Make him like a retro new age wall with data. Like when obi goes and changes the transmission in ROTS.
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vaderios said:
Its meant to remove general as we know him. Make him like a retro new age wall with data. Like when obi goes and changes the transmission in ROTS.
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so... were going the mighty general into a computer wall thingy? thats radical! (which is what we are going for)
John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/JOHN-WILLIAMS-Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Remastered-Edition/topic/14606/page/1/
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fishmanlee said:
vaderios said:
Its meant to remove general as we know him. Make him like a retro new age wall with data. Like when obi goes and changes the transmission in ROTS.
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so... were going the mighty general into a computer wall thingy? thats radical!
That is the general idea, yes...
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Johnny Ringo said:
fishmanlee said:
so... were going the mighty general into a computer wall thingy? thats radical!
That is the general idea, yes...
lol
John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/JOHN-WILLIAMS-Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Remastered-Edition/topic/14606/page/1/
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"The General" could be a battle computer but for the idea to work in a space fantasy context it needn't lose the mechanical monster.
The relationship between "The General" and the thing with four arms could be summed up like this :
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a still from "starship invaders" (1977): a potential source for the young count dooku?
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Jings that picture brings back memories (shudder) I remember being taken to see this on the promise that it would be 'a bit like Star Wars' (something that was similarly promised when we went to see the Jack Palance film The Shape Of Things To Come).
Before I forget I posted this on another thread but it makes sense to put it here too :
Bingowings said:
I was thinking of a different take in redubbing Jar-Jar.
Jedi reflexes are apparently so good because their connection with the Force makes them aware of the future and move towards it.
What if someone were totally untrained and bombarded with impulses coming from a few seconds in the future.
Wouldn't that make them rather clumsy?
If they were prone to making bizarrely accurate predictions about the future in a culture that took a superstitiously religious bad view of such things wouldn't he be banished or threatened with death (like witchhunts of the past)?
Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon could be visiting the Gungan city to investigate a potentially untrained Force sensitive? He wouldn't have to be one but it could be that there may be some suspicion.
I mention it here because it would require redubbing all the Gungan dialogue.
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My first colour correction in a while. This shot bugged the hell out of me, so I had to do some work. There was no rotoscoping to do this either.
Original Trilogy FTW!!!
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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Very interesting idea, Bingo! Could add ambiguity, come the OT, concerning who Vader is :P
"Obi Wan nevah tolden yousa what happened to yousa's fadder"
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EyeShotFirst said:
My first colour correction in a while. This shot bugged the hell out of me, so I had to do some work. There was no rotoscoping to do this either.
Original Trilogy FTW!!!
*Thumbs Up*
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Thanks
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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brash_stryker said:
Very interesting idea, Bingo! Could add ambiguity, come the OT, concerning who Vader is :P
"Obi Wan nevah tolden yousa what happened to yousa's fadder"
I hadn't even thought of that but come to think of it if Jar-Jar spoke seriously there could be a bit of perverse mileage in that.
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Excellent work ESF. More than most PT colour corrections I've seen, that one really makes it look like it was shot in the 1970s, which look I think I'd want to see in a PT edit. I might want the sky to stand out a little more, otherwise it's spot-on.