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You have probably already sussed what ILM have done here, they've tried to fix up a wrongly filmed shot with cg, i'll have to watch the clip again in motion to see the camera movement.
J.
Jaitea said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5dUNsEToag
Thanks again for the support, makes me more creative!!
J
Hey! Now this is an aswer to all who wanted a reflection to this glass.( a more defined reflection)
Im not so sure about the new sky it have to be more bright but at least the background buildings are gone for sure!
Reminds me what darth editous did with the bespin shaft matte.
Anything that brakes the matte as matte and gives foreground midground background elements are welcome!
Keep it up :D
Spot the model differences.
-Angel
vaderios said:
Jaitea said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5dUNsEToag
Thanks again for the support, makes me more creative!!
J
Hey! Now this is an aswer to all who wanted a reflection to this glass.( a more defined reflection)
Im not so sure about the new sky it have to be more bright but at least the background buildings are gone for sure!
Reminds me what darth editous did with the bespin shaft matte.
Anything that brakes the matte as matte and gives foreground midground background elements are welcome!
Keep it up :D
Spot the model differences.
-Angel
Yes, the top model is much more boxy. The satellite dish is much different as well. There are several differences, aesthetically. I believe the perspective is off slightly.
The lighting on the top image is off as well.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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For info and only to whoever doesnt know. This glass statue at the left of the image is actuall a little fountain like these feng sui stuff.
-Angel
vaderios said:
For info and only to whoever doesnt know. This glass statue at the left of the image is actuall a little fountain like these feng sui stuff.
-Angel
Looks great. The colouring is more realistic. The sky always bothered me.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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Ganamae said:
A lot of the soldiers running away from the AT-ATs have been copy pasted, they keep doing the same things like: turning and looking at the AT-ATs.
It's not an easy thing to notice perhaps...but there are 3 or 4 troopers in the background doing the same exact thing 1 after 1..goes pretty fast though. can ya see it Angel? or anyone?
I mentioned this last year sometime...don't know if this will be dealt with or not...
Although it may look like some copy & pasted troopers, they are all in fact different troopers. There are subtle differences in their movements and angles. What i don't like about this shot is the "Vaseline" effect on the troopers. The ESB:R second unit is will be re-filming the troopers for this and a couple of other shots in February in the US. We have a production meeting this saturday and i have to finish some of the costume pieces and props and get them set to the US in time for filming to begin.
Timstuff said:
This has probably already been answered, but will there be a Blu-Ray release for ESB:R since it's being edited in 720p? If so, is there anyone at this site who can burn Blu-Ray discs in exchange for donations/reimbursement?
No, there will only be a AVCHD release for the 720p version. Most blu-ray players will play ACHD's. I dont have a blu-ray burner so i wouldn't be able to test out the blu-ray if i made a blu-ray version.
Jaitea said:
A motion test to see if Han and Chewie could be resized to improve the scale of the Falcon.
Very well done Jaitea. I'm not going to be doing anything to the scaling issues though. If i changed that one shot then i would have to change every other shot where we see the Falcon studio set, which is too many to even think about.
Sevb32 said:
The scaling looks perfect, too bad Ady wants nothing to do with it. He's changed his mind before. We can only hope.
No i won't. lol
Octorox said:
The only thing that bugs me about the Star Wars movies that I don't think anyone addressed is the lack of visible glass paneling over starship windows. Because of the compositing techniques available at the time they look more like openings than windows
The problem with adding the window reflections is when there are actors against the windows , for example captain Needa on the stardestroyer bridge when the falcon shoots over the top of the bridge, there is no information from the opposite side view of the actors that can be added for the reflections. And you certainly would see their reflections with them standing that close to the windows. I prefer to think that the ships have non-reflective material for their windows. It's just something that can't be fixed.
corellian77 said:
Also glad to hear your wife's OK Ady, although that really sucks about the car. You mentioned you were itching to get back to ESB:R a few posts ago... is there anything holding you up (lack of money? time?).
thanks:) She was a bit shook up at first and upset about the damage to the car, but she's fine now. The garage and insurance company are staling with fixing the car. They originally said it would be fixed in a couple of days but now they are saying it will be done by the end of next week at the earliest because they have to wait for the insurances inspectors to come out and agree with their assessment before they can do the work. Really pissed off because its affecting the wife getting to work and she's having to take time off. We even went through the insurance and had to use their approved local garage so the delay is just ridiculous.
The monitor came the other day and i have it all set up and running now. It's so f***ing amazing. Thank you, Thank you Jacen. It's crystal clear and having the extra workspace is so helpful too. Bloody customs hit me again though, this time with a £30 import VAT charge and postalforce charged a &8 handling charge because of this. So i had to pay that before i could get it. How the hell can they justify that when it clearly stated on the import documents that it was a gift. I've started a dispute with customs over this but i didn't realise that they have recently changed their import charges ad can charge VAT even on a gift. Yet another way this bloody government is ripping off the UK residents. So, having to pay that just so i could get the monitor has screwed up me being able to get some more of the materials i was going to get this week for the costumes extras that i need to get done this week for the US filming. So yes, lack of money is definitely still holding me up.
vaderios said:
Spot the model differences.
yes, but replacing the smaller model would be impossible for me to track the correct camera motion to replace it with a more accurate version. The only other way to fix this would be to build a whole new frigate with a better falcon attached. Although at one point i was thinking of doing this so i could fix the near collision with the transport shot. Maybe i will, maybe i won't. But at least if i did then it will be very handy to use for ROTJ:R
And adding the sky, although a nice addition, is proving too difficult for the first interior shot of Leia looking out the window because there isn't any good tracking points to get the sky to look natural in motion, so i will be leaving the couple of shots we see the ceiling window the way they are .
The only other way to fix this would be to build a whole new frigate with a better falcon attached
3d.. ok I stop now.
there isn't any good tracking points to get the sky to look natural in motion, so i will be leaving the couple of shots we see the ceiling window the way they are .
The problem is that there is visible the set looking. Anyways your call :)
I have problem with the donation...
I ll try again later.
-Angel
adywan said:
they have recently changed their import charges ad can charge VAT even on a gift. Yet another way this bloody government is ripping off the UK residents.
Oh man... Over here, I would hope that something like that would still be considered "unconstitutional." So, first they opened it (an invasion of privacy, especially for a GIFT), then put whatever amount of taxes they want on it. Lovely.
Interesting news about filming in the U.S. Did we know that or is that new news? This is really going beyond some guy doing edits in his front room. ;)
You have probably already sussed what ILM have done here, they've tried to fix up a wrongly filmed shot with cg, i'll have to watch the clip again in motion to see the camera movement.
J.
Ripplin said:
Interesting news about filming in the U.S. Did we know that or is that new news? This is really going beyond some guy doing edits in his front room. ;)
I can't remember if i mentioned it before or not. It started out when someone on facebook contacted me about the Hoth X-Wing pilots uniform and progressed from there really. They have access to a professional 1080i HD camera and have set up a whole second unit for filming purposes. You'll get to see all that goes on in the "making of.." doc that will be on the special features disc for ESB:R.
OH yeh, did i mention that ESB:R will be a 2 disc DVD edition? I thought this would be a better option because i would be doing an AVCHD version, so anyone who just wanted the AVCHD disc would also be able to have all the special features on a separate disc instead of having to download the DL-DVD version just for the extras. So disc 2 will be a DVD-5.
Jaitea said:
You have probably already sussed what ILM have done here, they've tried to fix up a wrongly filmed shot with cg, i'll have to watch the clip again in motion to see the camera movement.
No, they haven't used any CG on this shot. they used the miniature version of the Falcon model which is a lot less accurately detailed, and it was physically attached to the Frigate model during filming. The close up shots used the larger scale model with just a section of the frigate
I always find "making of" stuff pretty hit-and-miss, but since this is ESB:R, I look forward to it almost as much as the actual movie. :)
Yeah, you're right Ady, just checked Empire 80, can't believe I never noticed that back-to-front model before!!
Good to hear your wife is OK. I'm sure motor mechanics are raking it in with damages caused by our extended bout of snow & ice, a guy I work with hit a kerb and did little damage just nocked out his alignment but the garage said he needed a new track rod end, he said to the mechanic just to leave it, so he checked it out somewhere else and it was just the alignment.
Glad you're back mate!
J
adywan said:
vaderios said:
Spot the model differences.
And adding the sky, although a nice addition, is proving too difficult for the first interior shot of Leia looking out the window because there isn't any good tracking points to get the sky to look natural in motion, so i will be leaving the couple of shots we see the ceiling window the way they are .
While it would be nice to see a cloud or two, maybe just changing the the color of the blue to something along the lines of the second pic by Vaderios would help make it look less like a set. That way you wouldn't have to worry about tracking issues (if the blue sky above was clear, you would just have to change the tint of the blue).
Also, a quick question: I know you said you weren't going to release a blu-ray version, but will the AVCHD have a decent bit rate? If so, about how big will it be (8gb, 10gb, etc)?
“You people must realize that the public owns you for life, and when you’re dead, you’ll all be in commercials dancing with vacuum cleaners.”
– Homer Simpson
Monroville said:
While it would be nice to see a cloud or two, maybe just changing the the color of the blue to something along the lines of the second pic by Vaderios would help make it look less like a set. That way you wouldn't have to worry about tracking issues (if the blue sky above was clear, you would just have to change the tint of the blue).
Also, a quick question: I know you said you weren't going to release a blu-ray version, but will the AVCHD have a decent bit rate? If so, about how big will it be (8gb, 10gb, etc)?
The skies have already been tweaked in the colour correction stage. The AVCHD will be a DVD-9 so the bitrate will be around equivalent to that of the original HD source file
adywan said:
Although it may look like some copy & pasted troopers, they are all in fact different troopers. There are subtle differences in their movements and angles. What i don't like about this shot is the "Vaseline" effect on the troopers. The ESB:R second unit will be re-filming the troopers for this and a couple of other shots in February in the US. We have a production meeting this saturday and i have to finish some of the costume pieces and props and get them sent to the US in time for filming to begin.
What? 'Adywan Productions' has his very own US-based 'Second Unit' now?
Terrific stuff, and that 'extras' bonus disc is sounding more and more required viewing! :)
This project is going way beyond anything I ever imagined. Be sure to take a breather, Ady =)
Also, customs are ASSHOLES! Have had so much bullshit from them in the past. They can't possibly justify taxing gifts.
Jaitea said:
A motion test to see if Han and Chewie could be resized to improve the scale of the Falcon.
Very well done Jaitea. I'm not going to be doing anything to the scaling issues though. If i changed that one shot then i would have to change every other shot where we see the Falcon studio set, which is too many to even think about.
There really aren't many shots of Han on top of the falcon in comparison to the cockpit, it's only a couple of scenes where the outside cockpit is seen with Han in frame so close. It really would not need redone in all the shots. But useless & fruitless for me to bring it up, I guess.
adywan said:
The monitor came the other day and i have it all set up and running now. It's so f***ing amazing. Thank you, Thank you Jacen. It's crystal clear and having the extra workspace is so helpful too.
Cheers!
How about a picture of the merchandise for the kiddies to drool over.....?
=oD
A US second unit?!?!
Darn it! Here I am stuck up in Canada with all this snow....
Matticon
Customs is a hit and miss affair.
I order a lot of DVDs from America and sometimes I get customs thrown on top most of the time I don't.
It was particularly annoying with my Val Lewton box set because I waited a long time for the thing to arrive and when it did I got a slip pushed through the door instead of a delivery, demanding more money than the cost of the set in customs (they set the customs charge on the retail price rather than the sale price).
I've just ordered a number of DVD's for a project I'm working on and I'm dreading the gray slips again (maybe I will get lucky this time).
Customs on declared gifts are daft especially when the item is second hand, it make you wonder where they pull these values out from.
HM Revenue & Customs said:
2.4 Gifts
Goods sent as a gift that are over £40 in value are liable to import VAT. Customs duty also becomes payable if the value of the goods is over £135 but is waived if the amount of duty calculated is less than £9.
To qualify as a gift:
the customs declaration must be completed correctly
the gift must be sent from a private person outside the EU to a private person(s) in this country
there is no commercial or trade element and the gift has not been paid for either directly or indirectly
the gift is of an occasional nature only, for example, for a birthday or anniversary.
Note: if you purchase goods from outside the EU to give as a gift to a relative or friend, whether or not addressed to that person, is treated as a ‘commercial consignment’ for which the import VAT relief threshold is £18 (paragraph 2.3 refers).
Jacen said:
adywan said:
The monitor came the other day and i have it all set up and running now. It's so f***ing amazing. Thank you, Thank you Jacen. It's crystal clear and having the extra workspace is so helpful too.Cheers!
How about a picture of the merchandise for the kiddies to drool over.....?
=oD
How 'bout a pic of the entire workstation, Ady? I bet it's as messy as mine! ;) (no offense)
Ripplin said:
I always find "making of" stuff pretty hit-and-miss, but since this is ESB:R, I look forward to it almost as much as the actual movie. :)
Well, history is a lot more interesting when it is well documented. I believe Ady is making history.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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EyeShotFirst said:
Well, history is a lot more interesting when it is well documented. I believe Ady is making history.
Photoshop has a history panel too...
There is always the history channel
Makes no sense
-Angel
vaderios said:
EyeShotFirst said:
Well, history is a lot more interesting when it is well documented. I believe Ady is making history.
Photoshop has a history panel too...
There is always the history channel
Makes no sense
-Angel
Can I buy pot from you?
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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I really enjoy that finally you have fixed the luminosty challenged pyrotechnics in the big overhead shot of the duel on the walkway. It's one of those things where I've just wanted to take a giant red marker and paint a circle around it and go "if you have to change the movies around then fix this. This! THIS ONE FIRST!"
But in the same shot I thought Luke's "super bright" saber was great. It will be missed. I think the new style looks too... bloomy if you will. And less like a lens flare.
EyeShotFirst said:
vaderios said:
EyeShotFirst said:
Well, history is a lot more interesting when it is well documented. I believe Ady is making history.
Photoshop has a history panel too...
There is always the history channel
Makes no sense
-Angel
Can I buy pot from you?
They are for sale if you want them.