Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist — Page 228

off topic, and we prolly talked about this already, but when C3PO says he it's against is programming to impersonat a deity, isn't he already doing that?

rcb said:

off topic, and we prolly talked about this already, but when C3PO says he it's against is programming to impersonat a deity, isn't he already doing that?

Not at that point.

I don't think anyone can program a droid not to be mistaken for a deity.

Not the same thing as impersonating one.

All these pics of Coruscant has me wondering about possibly seeing Luke @ the very end of RoTJ in the Jedi Temple and then pulling away slowly.

I was thinking along those lines before.  I don't know what it is but, having Coruscant in the OT just seems necessary.  It would be a huge consistincy addition, but would need to be handled properly.

The idea of moving the duel to Coruscant would solve alot of problems that weve been discussing, but as Bingo says, it wouldn't make sense.

I personally don't see why we need to bag a pretty good idea because one or two things wouldn't make sense. 

I see a hero's journey having to end in the capital or Temple of big boss.  A look at the capital of the Galactic Empire is how the audience will see how its conditions and inhabitants contrast with the hero's ordinary world.  Coruscant would give a better feel of a hero's journey, and how much more of a daunting task it would be.

Luke starting the film on Dagobah and having Yoda tell him he must face Vader, gets the film off to the right step.  It would make sure that everything leading up to it would be about that last duel, or the end of the heros journey.

Some things can be edited to make it work.  And the ideas of Luke in the temple at the end of the film would be emotional.  The fire place scene could be on Coruscant, somewhere that would mirror something about Vader.  Vader killed many in the Temple, so seeing him die there would be cool.

All these ideas may be too big to handle, and I'll probably be told how some don't make sense, which is fine, but I can see the ending of the film/saga alot more emotional with all these things going on.

I can imagine Luke marching up the steps of a ruined Jedi temple with rebel soldiers (mirroring how his father stormed the place) and entering the empty and abandoned council chamber to be joined by the ghosts of his mentors and his father as the celebrations take place in the streets would make for a touching scene.

I'm not sure how it could be achieved though.

I'm all for having Coruscant take the place of the DS2 as the location of the showdown of the Emp and Luke.

But, I'm not sure it is doable without the skills of ILM and the Lucasfilm Archives.

I still favour a small American Graffiti-style montage closeout with music and a small description of what happened next in SW history.

I'm talking about after the credits btw.

Bingowings said:

I can imagine Luke marching up the steps of a ruined Jedi temple with rebel soldiers (mirroring how his father stormed the place) and entering the empty and abandoned council chamber to be joined by the ghosts of his mentors and his father as the celebrations take place in the streets would make for a touching scene.

I'm not sure how it could be achieved though.

 that actually sounds pretty cool though.

the only way i could think of getting it done is to take the scene with luke and vader exiting the turbolift into the throne room and place that in a scene of the jedi temple.

on the former jedi however, i know the ghost jedi can be done, how we would fit them in there is another story.

Well i've got an idea as far as the Jabba's Palace dance scene goes.

instead of taking out that part i've created something with a song that isn't star wars related but fits in with what I personally think the Jabba's Palace Dance scene should be like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ9d9tKYFFc

(I was a fan of Lapti Nek though :D)

that's a good point. maybe someone could enhance the original mattes by taking away the lights and darkening the dish tower?

couldn't just be a bigger version of the sheild generator from the PT? more speciffically, wat the gungans used during the battle in TPM?

vaderios said:

Since the big plate on Endor moon should have night light traffic lights?

Isnt supposed to be at least hidden? or Endor became Coruscant?

Assuming the moon hasnt full nights with the reflection of Endor (see pandora-Avatar) the dish can visually stands as shape/silhouette to all the night shots. One more factor to add Endor.

original idea from http://yakspub.com/2009/12/21/commander-scrooge/

 

-Angel

Pandora is everything that Endor should be

I been thinking about the "I love you", "I know" reprise in ROTJ.

As much as it's great to be reminded of the classic scene in the other better film it currently kills tension and drama.

Leia is shot and for a few seconds it looks serious but then she throws a goof ball and comes out guns a blazing.

It would make more sense if the Imperials surrounded the bunker, Han and Leia have their ESB lines reversed and Leia goes ape with her gun only to get shot and injured.

An AT-ST turns up and it looks like curtains for our heroes and then the hatch opens and we see it's Chewie, giving Han a plan.

That way the tension builds up to a climax instead of wobbling back and forth as it currently does.

Just had a thought while watching the Rancor scene in ROTJ on Spike.

When Luke is in that alcove with the door in the back of the Rancor's lair, it would be impossible for the crowd watching above to see him in there, yet instead of looking for him, they keep on cheering.

SO... what if instead of the crowd watching through a cage, they're watching a viewscreen on the floor showing what's going on inside the lair?  It's not improbable for there to be cameras in the unseen areas of the lair, and it would make the scenes of the crowd watching a lot more interesting.

In my opinion, at least.

Further to my comments above, what if we saw no footage of Chewie and the Ewoks  riding the AT-ST (we just see them swing on the vine without the Tarzan call and throw the driver out).

That way when Chewie opens the hatch it's more plausible surprise.

The elements in those shot could be used in a different context to extend the scope of the battle.

Great idea Bingo, it would be a suspensful couple of seconds. 

I was just thinking, I think alot of us think that waterfalls on Endor would give it more life, but were would be a good place to put these?

I don't know that there really is an opportunity as it stands to add waterfalls....but I dig the idea. Maybe the best bet would simply be to show waterfalls in the background somewhere in a new establishing shot.....sorta like the new establishing shot of the DS in AnHR which worked so well.

anyone here watched avatar? really good movie especially the last 20 mins

we should get some ideas on how to set up the ewoks reveal and the battles they partake in the final climax an also the environment "angel"

that's all i have

did i forget to mention how awesome avatar was? okay