Octorox said:
Reviews have been pretty positive. I think I'm going to make the leap. I looks like it will be a really fun event film and not 2 hours of mind melting mess like Transformers 2 was. And to the person who said it looks like a cartoon, whats wrong with cartoons? I think you guys need to lighten up a little bit ;).
And To VINH, I gotta say that the political connotations of EpIII was really no more overt than any of the political undertones of the OT . You just happen not to agree with with some of the allegorical ties EPIII suggests. It draws just as heavily from other sources like the Vietnam War and the rise of the Roman Empire as it does to the Bush Administration. It deals with the ideas of decietful politicians, conspiracies, and fear mongering which doesn't have to be about the Bush Administration, although some would say it reflects the general climate at the time. Lucas said he was more concerned with referencing Vietnam than Bush.
(Note that I am not defending EpIII as a great film, it is still highly flawed and I believe many reviews (particularly Ebert, and I love that guy!) were very inflated and just didn't have any demands on integrity to the original series)
Also, The reason EpIII was positively received by critics (as I see it) is because it wasn't boring (like EpII) and it wasn't overtly goofy and childish nor ridiculously overhyped (like EPI). The dialogue was poorly written but it did provide the great spectacle and grand scope that people were looking for.
(P.S. I realize that my avatar is not lending any validity to the seriousness of my argument)
Yeah I know Lucas said he was talking about Vietnam not the the present, but since when did we start believing George Lucas? The Bush references in ROTS are shout-out-loud. No, they're nothing like the political undertones in the OT. Those were much more subtle. And why should my not agreeing with ROTS's politics make me any more bothered by it than by the politics in the OT? I don't agree with the politics in the OT either. I just amn't bothered by the OT politics because they don't beat you over the head and they're not this cheap superficial thing stuff shoved in to get credit.
And to the person who said it looks like a cartoon, whats wrong with cartoons?
Cartoons don't look real. A live action film should look real. So if a live action film looks like a cartoon you have a problem. Like with 97 Jabba and Jar Jar.
Why should we lighten up? The hype for this film isn't lightening up. It's all "this is a serious worthy film about important stuff" and "this is an IMPORTANT cinema event". When they lighten maybe we will.
Also, The reason EpIII was positively received by critics (as I see it) is because it wasn't boring (like EpII) and it wasn't overtly goofy and childish nor ridiculously overhyped (like EPI). The dialogue was poorly written but it did provide the great spectacle and grand scope that people were looking for.
Except it WAS boring. It WAS overly childish. As for great spectacle, I beg to differ -meaningless overdone show, more like. As for grand scope, it pretended to that, but it didn't have it with any depth. ROTS got better reviews because of its fashionable politics and because people bought the film's big idea of itself.
Reviews have been pretty positive. I think I'm going to make the leap.
Why should reviews have any bearing on your seeing the film? Reviewers always get stuff wrong.
C3PX said:
As for me, I am still the old fashioned sort that doesn't believe in cursing in front of ladies, and since I have the unfortunate tendancy to let one slip on these forums ever now and then, I like to assume this is a mostly estrogen free zone (with the exception of vbangle, who I believe is made up entirely of estrogen; and who will never know I said this about him because he has me on ignore).
Why would women be any less able than men to handle cursing around them? I can see no reason why anybody should curse any less around women than around men. And there's nothing "unfortunate" about cursing. There's nothing wrong with cursing whatsoever.