zombie84 said:
ILM made a scale sheet for ANH. I have a copy of it somewhere.
Even still though, stuff like that was a loose reference. They didn't put as much thought into it as anyone here is. Whatever looks good by eye, when theres 100 other elements flying around and the shot goes by in 4 seconds, is how they judged how to composite the things; if its off, who cares, as long as it looks okay when there's 100 other spaceships flying by and the shot ends before you can even figure out if its off or not. Like the shrinking ROTJ blockade runner. Scrutinizing it shot by shot to determine precise scale is pretty fruitless because it will never match perfectly. There is no precise scale in the films, only a general one that perpetually changes, so whatever you attempt to "standardize" in one way will be wrong in another way. I say just accept that its a movie and move on.
zombie84 said:
Ah here it is. I notice now that the Tech commentaries has this, but its uselessly small. I just took these with my camera right now so they are a bit blurry, but they are good enough for use.
As the Tech Commentaries points out though, these scales don't often correspond to the films. You can see that this is simply a rough pen sketch by Joe Johnson, just going by eye rather than any kind of measurement. When it came to the film they just did things "close" to this, whatever looked good in the frame, or sometimes imperfect because they didn't notice or didn't have the time to do it again, or outright didn't care. But the net result of all this is that the scaling in any of the films is only in a general sense, there is no actual "measurable" way to prove what it should pricisely be, you just go by eye so that it looks about right.
Zombie84 but did you read some of the recent posts here? I think you should have read post n°33 of the tread… Especially this:
savmagoett said:
…So the best we can do for now is make assumptions with the little we got from the movies and see later how it holds in the "big picture" (at the conclusion of my 1 mile ISD plea).
Ady you said that "the so called official scales of that ship are still based on the original scaling" when the Tantive was meant to be the falcon, right? I assume you were talking about this rough sketch made by Joe Johnston?:
Actually this was not what I was talking about, it looks like 50 m here, and, as you said, that wouldn't be consistent with the interiors set we see in ANH. The official size at SW.com is 150 m, but that's not because it official that I made a 150 m Tantive in my scale chart. Let me explain…
and this:
savmagoett said:
I personally don't seek what's reliable or not, I take all the 6 movies as a whole, even though I know they're filed with discrepancies, I only seek here to find the best choice one can make (when it comes to fix things) in order to make the whole saga more consistent. I don't think it's wise to reject data in general according to their kind or origin. I rather choose to discard data if it leads to less consistency to the saga as a whole. That's why I like the 150 m blockade runner because it's the "less inconsistent" theory IMHO…
Have you? ;)