vaderios said:
The far star destroyer should be in front of the underbelly SD. I think.
Monroville said:
Not just that, but the angle of the regular SD compared to the Executor don't match: in the close-up, you can see the dividing line of the Executor underbelly. Compare that to the regular Star Destroyer - it looks like the Executor is travelling with a list of 20 to 30 degrees!
Also, the SD on the far right should not be visible in one or the other picture. If you go by the close-up shot, the far right SD would be on the other side of the Executor covered up by the ship. If you go by the far away shot, the far right SD would be off screen in the close-up.
The main thing about these 2 shots that was always the most jarring to me was that the position of the Stardestroyer underneath the 'close-up' of the Executor didn't match it's position in the 'long-shot' which came afterwards. But since I remember Adywan mentioning this previously, I'm hopeful he's able to do something about that.
Have to say that I prefer to see the Executor's 'tower' detail etc. in that initial 'long-shot' though vaderios.
As far as that Stardestroyer seen in the distance in the 'close-up' shot, I guess it could be one that is 'hidden behind' the Executor in the 'long-shot'....but going by the camera angle in the 'close-up' shot, I reckon it would also work if that Stardestroyer was changed to be coming in the opposite direction instead, to seem like it's the SD seen in the distance on the left of the 'long-shot' shot. And I'm not entirely sure that the main SD seen in the 'close-up' shot of the Executor is the correct size either. Too small perhaps, if it's 'tower' size is judged against the 'long-shot' of the Executor?
However, even the Stardestroyers seen in the shots that come before the 'close-up' of the Executor don't seem to match either where their 'height' levels and layout is concerned, so I'm going to be interested to see just how much tweaking Adywan does in the sequence or not.
My own take on all this is that the 'scale' of various things in many shots throughout ESB and ROTJ seem to conflict unfortunately, and that while some things can probably be improved, some others probably can't be. As well as some of the 'miniature' and 'prop' work, some of the 'compositing' also left a lot to be desired in places as far as getting the scale of things correct....but I can accept the discrepancies as part of the 'charm' of those mainly wonderful old-style special effects done across the OT.
I feel sorry for Adywan though, as some of these 'scaling' issues must be driving a perfectionist like him nuts! :)
