adywan said:
doubleofive said:
Is that new shuttle a little on the small side? Or was Vader's shuttle in RotJ too big?
I'll try to get some comparisons together.
It's the correct scale. Just look at the size of the docking bay compared to the shuttle. Plus in ROTJ the shuttle came out of the front smaller bay not the main one
And, yes, the scale is wrong in ROTJ. It would never have fit in any of the docking bays
Hello Adywan!
I'm sorry if I seem complaining for my first intervention here, but (with all the respect for your wonderful job here) I think the scale in ROTJ is right!
In fact the dimensions of those two ships are quite well established:
A Tydirium shuttle is about 20 m (65 feet) long. You can tell this is right by checking on set scenes with the actors.
A star destroyer is 1.6 km (a mile) long. That can be verified by comparing the blockade runner (150 m (492 feet) long) fitting inside the main bay, and the Falcon (26.7 m (88 feet) long) hiding behind the coning tower. (detailed analysis here: http://www.theforce.net/SWTC/isd.html#dimensions )
Here's a mockup comparing the three ships:
What is wrong is the idea of a Tydirium shuttle fitting into a destroyer's docking bays. You are right Ady, the hangars in the main bay are simply too small for a Lambda shuttle, and the forward bay is not deep enough.
The problem is by the time ILM created the star destroyer for ANH, there were no lambda shuttle created yet. This shuttle was created for ROTJ. So it was never planned for a Lambda shuttle to fit inside a star destroyer. However in ROTJ's opening scene they needed to show Vader's arrival at the new death star, so they cheated a little and we see a lambda shuttle going out of that forward docking bay. I agree it should be impossible, but you can't see how deep is that forward bay from that POV, so it's no big deal.
I understand you want to repair this so that the shuttle can actually fit inside one of the two hangars we see in the main bay.
Maybe you are also mistaken by that scene in TESB (made for the special edition) where we see Vader's Tydirium entering the main hangar of the super star destroyer. But this is the super star destroyer not a regular one.
By changing the scales you make it looks like 3 Blockade runners could fit inside the main bay! Like this:
Are you sure you want to do that, isn't there another solution? Anyway, I personally found the ROTJ opening scene the lesser of two evil. Why not do that?
Or you could make it go from the other side of the bay, the one we don't see from this angle…
What do you think?