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It's certainly possible to get unbanned, ultimately it's Jay's forum and if he decides you can come back you can.

However that's not really a subject for this thread.

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No, its from mid-December last year.  There are several changed elements that have already been changed back/altered further.

Notice that Ming Pan uploaded it, not Ady.

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5 by 5 said:

The benefit is to add to the illusion that Vader is on a huge starship.   Otherwise it looks like they're trying to get by "on the cheap" repeating the use of some other sets.

I certainly understand the intention 5 by 5, but I don't happen to see that shot as a cheap 're-using' of the other sets in any way.  Rather, if Vader's quarters are deemed to be just around that right corner which isn't too far from the Bridge, then the wall section seen outside the open doorway does indeed match the existing set wall that is seen opposite the spot where Vader is seen to turn and go downwards after he chokes Needa.

If Adywan wants to change it in any way to make it seem as if Vader has travelled further, then that can certainly work too, since we only got a glimpse of Vader beginning to go downwards after he chokes Needa, and didn't get to see the doorway of his quarters there.  On the other hand, in the scene when Vader first turns the corner to go and contact the Emperor before the 5-6 second cut to the Executor exiting the asteroids....when we cut back to his quarters, it would seem like a 'jump forward in time' to allow him to get there....

 

Going back to the additional TIE laserbolts thing, I seem to recall Ady commenting that he thought they ended up making the sequence look 'too busy' at this point.  I personally thought they worked really great (along with their sound effects) where they'd been placed, but the original sequence is looking terrific regardless.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Bingowings said:

It's certainly possible to get unbanned, ultimately it's Jay's forum and if he decides you can come back you can.

Yes he duz, and he did.

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I'm sure this has been discussed at some point in this thread but 579 pages is a LOT of reading so....

Since these clips and the final trailer were all encoded in 720p HD, is that an indicator of what the final film will be encoded in as well in addition to a standard DVD release?

 

"In a Star Wars movie, we expect force, Jedi, ships, fighting, cool people doing cool things....not midiclorians, Jar Jar, Grevious and Vader screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOO" like a bitch. "

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Exactly.  A 720p AVCHD playable in Blu Ray players and a standard DVD.

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You are right.  He is working in 720 for the release.  I think he is also planning a SD version.

 

I swear 005, I was typing first!! *shakes fist*

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Awesome.

My PS3 is hungry for this since I fed it the HD trailer for this!

 

 

"In a Star Wars movie, we expect force, Jedi, ships, fighting, cool people doing cool things....not midiclorians, Jar Jar, Grevious and Vader screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOO" like a bitch. "

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doubleofive said:

a standard DVD.

My o my, its quite interesting to see how quickly we are embracing the industries new technology.

Is there ANYONE able to send me a copy of ANH:R on betamax tape and a Super HD copy, so i can compair image quality?

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Darth Solo said:

doubleofive said:

a standard DVD.

My o my, its quite interesting to see how quickly we are embracing the industries new technology.

Is there ANYONE able to send me a copy of ANH:R on betamax tape at all?

"standard definition DVD".  That better?  ;-)

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Darth Solo said:

My o my, its quite interesting to see how quickly we are embracing the industries new technology.

Is there ANYONE able to send me a copy of ANH:R on betamax tape and a Super HD copy, so i can compair image quality?

 

Gotcha covered on the Betamax (Hi-Fi even). What's your address?  ;)

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RowMan said:

Darth Solo said:

My o my, its quite interesting to see how quickly we are embracing the industries new technology.

Is there ANYONE able to send me a copy of ANH:R on betamax tape and a Super HD copy, so i can compair image quality?

Gotcha covered on the Betamax (Hi-Fi even). What's your address?  ;)

I've considered making a full-frame VHS-quality version of Revisited, just to imagine what an alternate reality version of my childhood would have been like.  Sounded like a fun project.

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That would be pretty easy to do. I have my VHS tapes nearby, as well as the widescreen versions.

"In a Star Wars movie, we expect force, Jedi, ships, fighting, cool people doing cool things....not midiclorians, Jar Jar, Grevious and Vader screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOO" like a bitch. "

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doubleofive said:

RowMan said:

Darth Solo said:

My o my, its quite interesting to see how quickly we are embracing the industries new technology.

Is there ANYONE able to send me a copy of ANH:R on betamax tape and a Super HD copy, so i can compair image quality?

Gotcha covered on the Betamax (Hi-Fi even). What's your address?  ;)

I've considered making a full-frame VHS-quality version of Revisited, just to imagine what an alternate reality version of my childhood would have been like.  Sounded like a fun project.

Im actually liking that idea for some strange reason, joking aside. I can do a VHS cover (Imandix dont cover those previews though).

Retro-to-go!

Is DVD in the early stage of becoming retro now?

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Darth Solo said:

doubleofive said:

RowMan said:

Darth Solo said:

My o my, its quite interesting to see how quickly we are embracing the industries new technology.

Is there ANYONE able to send me a copy of ANH:R on betamax tape and a Super HD copy, so i can compair image quality?

Gotcha covered on the Betamax (Hi-Fi even). What's your address?  ;)

I've considered making a full-frame VHS-quality version of Revisited, just to imagine what an alternate reality version of my childhood would have been like.  Sounded like a fun project.

Im actually liking that idea for some strange reason, joking aside. I can do a VHS cover (Imandix dont cover those previews though).

Retro-to-go!

Is DVD in the early stage of becoming retro now?

I'm just imagining the front advertising the tape in "Hi-Fi Stereo!"  Man, that brings me back....

O.T. or No T., baby!

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I'm still desperately praying for a wax cylinder edition.

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Now somebody has to do it.  I don't have the fullscreen tapes to reference.

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To do all the pan 'n scanning?

Garage sales or libraries are probably best close to home without resorting to having someone mail one...though that's also possible.

I could do it, though with my limited computer power to actually pan and scan certain shots (in Sony Vegas) could take a long time to do.

If anyone wants to recreate the widescreen look of Return of The Jedi on VHS, it would require adding extra space to the bottom black border, since they felt the extra space was needed for the alien subtitles for that but not for Star Wars!

"In a Star Wars movie, we expect force, Jedi, ships, fighting, cool people doing cool things....not midiclorians, Jar Jar, Grevious and Vader screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOO" like a bitch. "

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adywan said:

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Is that new shuttle a little on the small side?  Or was Vader's shuttle in RotJ too big?

I'll try to get some comparisons together.

It's the correct scale. Just look at the size of the docking bay compared to the shuttle. Plus in ROTJ the shuttle came out of the front smaller bay not the main one

And, yes, the scale is wrong in ROTJ. It would never have fit in any of the docking bays

Hello Adywan!
I'm sorry if I seem complaining for my first intervention here, but (with all the respect for your wonderful job here) I think the scale in ROTJ is right!
In fact the dimensions of those two ships are quite well established:
A Tydirium shuttle is about 20 m (65 feet) long. You can tell this is right by checking on set scenes with the actors.
A star destroyer is 1.6 km (a mile) long. That can be verified by comparing the blockade runner (150 m (492 feet) long) fitting inside the main bay, and the Falcon (26.7 m (88 feet) long) hiding behind the coning tower. (detailed analysis here: http://www.theforce.net/SWTC/isd.html#dimensions )
Here's a mockup comparing the three ships:



What is wrong is the idea of a Tydirium shuttle fitting into a destroyer's docking bays. You are right Ady, the hangars in the main bay are simply too small for a Lambda shuttle, and the forward bay is not deep enough.
The problem is by the time ILM created the star destroyer for ANH, there were no lambda shuttle created yet. This shuttle was created for ROTJ. So it was never planned for a Lambda shuttle to fit inside a star destroyer. However in ROTJ's opening scene they needed to show Vader's arrival at the new death star, so they cheated a little and we see a lambda shuttle going out of that forward docking bay. I agree it should be impossible, but you can't see how deep is that forward bay from that POV, so it's no big deal.
I understand you want to repair this so that the shuttle can actually fit inside one of the two hangars we see in the main bay.
Maybe you are also mistaken by that scene in TESB (made for the special edition) where we see Vader's Tydirium entering the main hangar of the super star destroyer. But this is the super star destroyer not a regular one.
By changing the scales you make it looks like 3 Blockade runners could fit inside the main bay! Like this:



Are you sure you want to do that, isn't there another solution? Anyway, I personally found the ROTJ opening scene the lesser of two evil. Why not do that?
Or you could make it go from the other side of the bay, the one we don't see from this angle…
What do you think?

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Welcome aboard savmagoett.  Interesting 1st post there.

For the sake of 'bay size' comparisons etc., here's another look at Adywan's new version -

....and how the 'Tantive IV' fits in the ANH ' bay' -

....and how ROTJ's shuttle exit from the smaller front 'bay' looks -

As far as when we come to 'ROTJ:Revisited', Adywan has indicated that Vader's shuttle may instead seem to have exited from his Executor ship rather than 'some other' Stardestroyer, so we may not see the above shots in their current form anyway....

I'm curious, are all the Stardestroyers seen in ANH, ESB, and ROTJ meant to be exactly the same size?

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The thing is, they have taken the scale of the Lambda shuttle from the size of it at the opening of ROTJ, and the scale of the falcon when its docked onto the stardestroyer, which is completely the wrong scale, but there is nothing i can do about that. Even the TIEs in the opening of ROTJ are the wrong scale. By that scale the TIEs cockpits are about the same size as about 2 stardestroyer decks. Are the stardestroyers manned by the Borrowers? lol. The Lambda class shuttle should fit easily in a standard Stardestroyer docking bay. Look at the size of the Stardestroyers bridge and then look at the size of the shuttle in that comparison pic you posted and you can see just how wrong the scale is. And don't forget the Tantive IV was originally going to be the Millennium Falcon and most of the so called official scales of that ship are still based on the original scaling. The scale there compared to the shuttle means that there would be no room for all those corridors. They screwed up the scaling of the Tantive IV yet again in ROTS. For the scale of the Lambda class shuttle just look at when Vader or the Emperor exits. You can see the scale of a human against the shuttle. Now compare that to the size of the Stardestroyers bridge in comparison to a human and you can work out the correct scale of the ships that way. So, yes, the Lambda class shuttle is indeed that small so it can fit into the stardestroyers docking bay

And no, i haven't got confused with the Executors docking bay in the ESB SE scenes.

That whole sequence at the beginning of ROTJ:R will be gone so there will be no problem with the scaling when i get to that.

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ImperialFighter said:

Welcome aboard savmagoett.  Interesting 1st post there.

For the sake of 'bay size' comparisons etc., here's another look at Adywan's new version -

....and how ROTJ's shuttle exit from the smaller front 'bay' looks -

As far as when we come to 'ROTJ:Revisited', Adywan has indicated that Vader's shuttle may instead seem to have exited from his Executor ship rather than 'some other' Stardestroyer, so we may not see the above shots in their current form anyway....

I'm curious, are all the Stardestroyers seen in ANH, ESB, and ROTJ meant to be exactly the same size?

 

I'm sure the more analytical of us can do better than I, but my guess is that it depends on what class they are.

 

Are the SDs in  the OT mostly Imperial or ImpII Class? Or are there some bigger/smaller ones excluding the SSDs?

 

Nvmd, sniped by Ady. :P