Monroville said:
ImperialFighter said:
While I didn't mean 10 feet away from the Bridge, lol, I don't reckon a long, long trek from it either.
However, as it's impossible to actually judge exactly where this section of the set seen beyond the doorway is positioned anyway, there's nothing to say it can't be situated 'in the bowels' somewhere, without any manipulation whatsoever.
I'm not saying Vader's chamber should be in the Executor's nose or anything ("I said ACROSS her nose, not UP it!"), but being that we can see that path and door in later bridge shots (I know that when making movies, sets will be built in proximity to one another for budget sake), it does make it a little silly.
Okay, because vaderio's mock-up above is something I consider a 'fix' for something I personally don't reckon is broken, I'm going to have a final stab at where I now believe Vader's quarters is really meant to be situated....if you go by the actual 'set' layout itself - not very far away from being able to access any action on the Bridge, after all.
Having looked at all the relevant scenes, we never see that path and door (to Vader's quarters) in later Bridge shots clearly. What we do see is Vader turning the corner on his right, once he's past the 'control room' section, after Piett tells him that the Emperor wishes him to make contact. We then cut to a few seconds (approx. 5 or 6) of the 'Executor' coming out of the asteroid field, before cutting back to Vader inside his quarters.
Now I won't necessarily take that particular Executor shot's brief length literally, as I suppose it's possible to see it as a stylistic 'long jump ahead in time' before we return to Vader in his 'chamber' quarters, which could suggest that he's had time to travel into the 'bowels' somewhere, if you choose to look at it that way.
However, I reckon this brief cut to the Executor works fine in 'real-time' before we cut back to Vader in his quarters, because I think the dooway to his quarters is literally just around that right corner that he turns into.
Unfortunately I don't have a screenshot of it, but later on, just after Vader has choked Captain Needa, he then disappears off around that right corner again, and just before the scene ends, we can see that he begins to go down steps. The 2 'security guards' seen standing in front of the doors in the 'unused' shot seen at the bottom here (and 1 is seen in the actual shot above), are not at the top of the stairs that Vader goes down after he chokes Needa....because I believe they are the 2 'security guards' that happen to be disposing of Needa at this point.
Ignore the 'BRIDGE' indication in the shot below (which was confirmed as being wrong ages ago), and look on the 'arrow' as pointing instead to the right corner that Vader goes around, and therefore towards the steps that are seen at the end of the Captain Needa scene. And compare the detail of the 'set' walls seen on the opposite side of where this 'arrow' points, to the wall detail seen 'outside' of Vader's quarters in the current shot above . You'll see that the 'intersecting' portion that juts out from the wall, matches the detail that is seen behind the passing crewmembers in the above shot. If we could see just a little to the right of the above shot, we'd be able to see the 'white-lit' detail of the doorway seen on the left of the 'set' photo below (it's the same design as the outside of the doorway to Vader's quarters....as seen in the 'unused' shot at the very bottom here -
Here's an 'unused' shot showing the outside doorway to Vader's quarters, which is just barely out of shot at the end of the Captain Needa scene....showing the steps that Vader goes down at that point -
'Security guards' are normally stationed outside (as they seem to be at various other doorways, too), but were carrying Needa away in the scene where they would have been positioned here normally, which would have identified the positioning easier for us to begin with.
As far as the 'viewscreen' inside these quarters that Vader communicates to a 'nearby' Admiral Ozzel with....it seems reasonable enough to me that Vader has instant access to various areas he wishes to speak with (including the 'control room' just around the corner from his quarters), from the comfort of his 'chamber'....without having to physically get up out of it, if he can't be bothered etc.
It's like his own personal 'Captain's Chair' and 'Viewscreen', from which he can control everthing in comfort.