Vampire Politics

Author: TheBoost
Date: 10-Nov-2009, 12:55 PM

Author: TheBoost
Time: 10-Nov-2009 12:55 PM
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Where did the concept of vampire politics enter fiction?

It seems I cant watch a movie or open a book with vampires in it without having to read all about vampire laws, and vampire clans, vampire societies, and vampire rulers fighting vampire wars.

Who came up with this? Was it Anne Rice? I only read "Interview with a Vampire" and there were hints of it in there.

By now the concepts have almost saturation level in all manner of vampiric fiction. It's so bad that most modern "Dracula" pastiches go back and insert the ideas into "Dracula."

Does anyone know who's to blame?

Author: xhonzi
Time: 10-Nov-2009 12:58 PM
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Your mom?

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

Author: xhonzi
Time: 10-Nov-2009 12:58 PM
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(AKA "No, I have no idea.")

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

Author: TV's Frink
Time: 10-Nov-2009 1:17 PM
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xhonzi said:

Your mom?

Wow, I was just transported back to high school for a moment there. Thanks for that lol.

Author: C3PX
Time: 11-Nov-2009 2:07 PM
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Guess I am not all that big into vampiric fiction, so I haven't run across any of what you are talking about. Other than anthropological works containing deep studies into vampirism and its origins, the last time I read or watched anything having to do with vampires was back in high school when the first seasons of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and all of its Sarah Michelle Gellar goodness where airing on TV; and most vampire lore strictlers tend to shun that show. I guess those vimpire romance/porn novels (Twilight and its hoards of clones) are a pretty big thing these days, but I personally think all that is a sad waste of the vampire mythos (not to say that Buffy wasn't).

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

Author: Sluggo
Time: 12-Nov-2009 2:50 AM
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And didn't vampires once turn into bats? What happened to that?

Author: TheBoost
Time: 12-Nov-2009 3:26 PM (Edited)
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C3PX said:

I guess those vimpire romance/porn novels (Twilight and its hoards of clones) are a pretty big thing these days,

I was at a Border's the other day, and they have a whole section. Not a section of 'sci fi' or 'fantasy' or 'romance' but an entire block of the store, four entire shelving units, two DVD displays and a banner all for 'young girl and vampire romances'.

I almost poured my hot chai tea into my eyes to try and make myself unsee it.

Author: EyeShotFirst
Time: 13-Nov-2009 9:37 AM
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Creating laws adds some realism to it. It is the same with witches and wizards in Harry Potter. It makes it seem like they really exist. If they a governed by rules and laws, they blend in with society. I always preferred my vampires to be loners, but for some people I guess the need to be ultra fanboys. Really, the whole vampire thing is over-done. Twilight really destroyed vampires for me.

People like to pretend that fiction is real, hence the horrible EU, and it's constant scientific corrections of George's mistakes.

Fans like their movies, books, or fictional worlds to be perfect. If it is perfect, then it is real in the fans eyes.

I really don't care about vampirific novels or movies anymore.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

Author: EyeShotFirst
Time: 13-Nov-2009 9:44 AM
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TheBoost said:

C3PX said:

I guess those vimpire romance/porn novels (Twilight and its hoards of clones) are a pretty big thing these days,

I was at a Border's the other day, and they have a whole section. Not a section of 'sci fi' or 'fantasy' or 'romance' but an entire block of the store, four entire shelving units, two DVD displays and a banner all for 'young girl and vampire romances'.

I almost poured my hot chai tea into my eyes to try and make myself unsee it.

I read a few pages of one of my Aunt's vampire novels called "Love Bites", which involved the biting of another vampire's "happy place".

I nearly died.

To think, all of those 40+ women in Barnes and Noble and Books A Million are reading stuff like that.

I hope one day we will get a monster that isn't stereotypical like Frankenstein's monster, Vampires, Killers, or any of those shitty Halloween/Kruger/Jason/Leather-face monsters.