vaderios

I'm loving your input and your Photoshop examples, which I have been following with great interest

EXCELLENT

Bingowings said:

The ice cave looks a little bleached out for my eyes, it's nice to have the snow no longer purple or blue but some of the darkness of the cave seems to be lost.

Look at the sides of the cave entrance for example.

This is rough because the images don't exactly match (so ignore the legs and the saber obviously) but I tried over laying some of the lower contrast/higher detail information of the GOUT version over the ESB: R version.

It's darker but you get some of the detail back :

Don't trust the colours of a pic posted on facebook. many times the colour has been changed of pics i have uploaded there. Not sure why it does it because it doesn't do it to them all but here is a true snapshot

even here the image looks a little brighter than it does on the actual video

It's November 1st- Hangover Day.

I was going to say that I thought the cave looked a little too bright, but Ady has already addressed that now.

So instead I'll share with you guys a new XKCD that features something I think everyone on this board will enjoy. I'm a fan of ESB:r on facebook now and I recommend anyone who is interested in ESB:r to do likewise. Carry on!

However, in the 'longshot' that comes immediately before this shot, it looks like Vader's first swipe at Luke as he comes out of this doorway is outwards , and his blade seems to hit roughly where the 'narrow gap' in the railing is seen.  Vader then takes another swipe at Luke (who ducks), and that seems to be only time the blade hits the doorway exterior.

I said before that i made them aprox :) not really carea bout the position.

If Adywan wants to keep this cockpit shot as it is (which veers sharply a moment later, showing a blurred starfield and Executor in the distance), I'd like him to consider placing the Executor higher up in the frame at this point.

See? it doesnt matter really where to position the executor. when i started reconstruct the shot i placed an improved identical executor pic. But i noticed that its angle caused the perespective paradox. I said that only stylistically POV that shot needs revisit :)

Angel

I'm loving your input and your Photoshop examples, which I have been following with great interest

EXCELLENT

Thanks sky! And thank you for making ady's awesome logo :D

Here's my beef - daylight is blue. Without direct sunlight, snow/ice (and anything else that is otherwise white) looks blue (so shadows on snow should be blue). Unless Ady's taking the GOUT colours as gospel, that bottom shot just looks too much like a set. Mix the top two shots together and you have something approaching nice, IMO.

DE

Oh god! Blue??? BLUE?????

Btw nobody noticed my dagobah shot? I want thoughts to make it better or that if that idea works or not :(

-Angel

adywan said:

Bingowings said:

The ice cave looks a little bleached out for my eyes, it's nice to have the snow no longer purple or blue but some of the darkness of the cave seems to be lost.

Look at the sides of the cave entrance for example.

This is rough because the images don't exactly match (so ignore the legs and the saber obviously) but I tried over laying some of the lower contrast/higher detail information of the GOUT version over the ESB: R version.

It's darker but you get some of the detail back :

Don't trust the colours of a pic posted on facebook. many times the colour has been changed of pics i have uploaded there. Not sure why it does it because it doesn't do it to them all but here is a true snapshot

even here the image looks a little brighter than it does on the actual video

Compacted ice will usually have a bluish look to it though I think...

As an interior shot it just seems too white to me.

satanika said:

Compacted ice will usually have a bluish look to it though I think...

As an interior shot it just seems too white to me.

I see ady's approach like the camera shoots as natural as can with no special stylised photo effects. I just noticed that ady's version has plenty of blue in it(played wiht some sliders)

The modernize of 2004 was to set moods and situations. Tinted cyan blues was set a stylised cold environment as we see in decent movies( Michael Bay anyone?) Or with several tints manage to make the old elements blended together with no further work.

There will be blood here ......

-Angel

PS: Thanks Johnny :)

vaderios said:

I see ady's approach like the camera shoots as natural as can with no special stylised photo effects. I just noticed that ady's version has plenty of blue in it(played wiht some sliders)

The modernize of 2004 was to set moods and situations. Tinted cyan blues was set a stylised cold environment as we see in decent movies( Michael Bay anyone?) Or with several tints manage to make the old elements blended together with no further work.

Hmm, I'm not really talking about a stylized coloring, I just believe ice masses has some blue in it.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_ice_%28glacial%29

A quick mockup.

Well, I am not one to go on endlessly about a topic, but I'm not talking about reflections, or light or whatever. Simply that ice is blue.

Actually I believe the blue would be even more pronounced in a cave. Look up ice cave on google images to see tons of blue caves. ;)

Finished the comparisons.  You can find them here.  If you see something I missed in the description, let me know.

satanika said:

Well, I am not one to go on endlessly about a topic, but I'm not talking about reflections, or light or whatever. Simply that ice is blue.

Actually I believe the blue would be even more pronounced in a cave. Look up ice cave on google images to see tons of blue caves. ;)

Actually a lot of this depends on who is taking the photograph. Was the white balance set before taking the picture or was the camera set to automatic white balance?.  Look at these examples of ice caves:

Just a hint of blue where the white balance looks to be set correctly. Now look at these:

Looks like whoever did the colour correction for the 2004 set was using pictures like these as reference. lol

Hopefully this video will help settle things and you can see just how different the colouring looks on the video compared to the screenshots. (and no, you don't get to see the new wampa. lol)

http://rapidshare.com/files/301401263/cave_sample.avi

adywan said:

satanika said:

Well, I am not one to go on endlessly about a topic, but I'm not talking about reflections, or light or whatever. Simply that ice is blue.

Actually I believe the blue would be even more pronounced in a cave. Look up ice cave on google images to see tons of blue caves. ;)

Actually a lot of this depends on who is taking the photograph. Was the white balance set before taking the picture or was the camera set to automatic white balance?.  Look at these examples of ice caves:

Just a hint of blue where the white balance looks to be set correctly. Now look at these:

Looks like whoever did the colour correction for the 2004 set was using pictures like these as reference. lol

Hopefully this video will help settle things and you can see just how different the colouring looks on the video compared to the screenshots. (and no, you don't get to see the new wampa. lol)

http://rapidshare.com/files/301401263/cave_sample.avi

 I really do prefer the whites rather than the blue, thanks alot for the upload ady. just wondering about something. Ady are you keeping the wampa sections in there? or was that scene just simple colour correction?

Well, I'll say that the fake ice they used probably didn't have any blue in it.

But the way the entrance is carved seems to be like a glacial wall, like this

But however it'll end up looking, it'll still look good, so... :)

adywan said:

Hopefully this video will help settle things and you can see just how different the colouring looks on the video compared to the screenshots. (and no, you don't get to see the new wampa. lol)

http://rapidshare.com/files/301401263/cave_sample.avi

YES!  You restored the music sync when the saber hilt is inching its way out of the snow.  That's one of those minor niggles that bothered me in the SE.

cant access it 

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I have premium access and it won't download.  :-(

BarBar Jinkx said:

cant access it 

 

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try the link again. This shouldn't be happening because it was uploaded to my collectors account so everyone can download it. It might have been a glitch with rapidshare. I've just tried the link and everything works fine.

Edit: i tried it a second time and i got the premium members only message. it did say that rapidshare was busy and there were no free download slots available so i clicked on the linkto the video that was on that page and it let me download it then. Hope that helps