xhonzi said:

Octo- I don't think that tact is far off subject: Why does [modern literature] hate [good and evil]?

It reminds me of a great line in Zero Effect (one of my faves, by the by): Zero has more or less stated that does his job to protect innocent people from evil people. You know, the bad guys. His assistant, goes off on him, There aren't evil guys and innocent guys. It's just... It's just... It's just a bunch of guys!

I do agree that there is good and evil in all of us. However, I do think there is actual good and evil. I do think that there are people we can accurately call "Good" because they are overwhelmingly so. And likewise I believe there are people we can call "Bad" or "Evil". Or, rather, "Heroes" and "Villains."

Moral relativism says that "This is true/good for you, but it is false/bad for me." That I don't agree with. I think truth is truth, and good is good, and that there are people who wrongly disagree. But that's me.

Thanks for the reply. I agree. For a good example of a fictional character who sees the world in black and white in a world of gray I would look at Rorschach from Watchmen. It's easy to empathize with the character, he's seen so much evil in his life, and he is well intentioned but it also easy to look at the flaws in his philosophy and modus operandi. I don't think I believe in complete moral relativism either, but I believe in shades of gray, I believe people can change (although realistically some people are mentally beyond that point) and I believe in keeping and open mind and looking at an issue from all sides, "stepping in the other person's shoe" if you will. Although it seems vote-for-palpatine would believe I think mass murder is justified :(...although again that's a question Watchmen looks at, I'd definitely recommend it, film or novel.