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TheBoost said:

 

That being said, Adywan adding "Battle of the Heroes" in ANH carried with it emotional resonance because of the purpose of that piece of music (Anakin vs. Obi). But even if Adywan hadn't repeatedly stated there would be no PT music in ESB:R, I still can't think of any point that a PT theme could be added into ESB that would add to the film.

Well, that's also how some of us felt about putting PT music in A New Hope: Revisted, so I'm very happy he's not doing it for Empire: Revisited. And I'm with you, I think the music for the prequels at times is incredibly good, but my great objection to it being placed in the OT is not a judgment of its quality. It's a judgment of its suitability, and it doesn't work. It is stylistically and tonally completely different. The only two scores that come anywhere near being the same, and this is entirely deliberate, are Return of the Jedi and The Phantom Menace. Putting Leia's Theme into Episode III was an attempt support the bridge to Star Wars (A New Hope) and while it sounded wonderful, it didn't fit with the rest of the score for that movie. So while I vociferously object to PT music being added to the OT, it's not because it's all bad music. Far from it. I think Padme's Ruminations is the best scene/new score in Episode III (ironic that it's the one with no dialogue. hmm) but compare that piece with any piece from the rest of the saga, and it's totally different.

Darth Venal said:

TheBoost said:

 

That being said, Adywan adding "Battle of the Heroes" in ANH carried with it emotional resonance because of the purpose of that piece of music (Anakin vs. Obi). But even if Adywan hadn't repeatedly stated there would be no PT music in ESB:R, I still can't think of any point that a PT theme could be added into ESB that would add to the film.

Well, that's also how some of us felt about putting PT music in A New Hope: Revisted, so I'm very happy he's not doing it for Empire: Revisited. And I'm with you, I think the music for the prequels at times is incredibly good, but my great objection to it being placed in the OT is not a judgment of its quality. It's a judgment of its suitability, and it doesn't work.

True.

But whether you dug "Battle of Heroes" in ANH:R or not (I'm of mixed feelings), at the very least objectiviely we can agree that the meaning of that music as part of a film score (echoing Anakin/Obi's first fight) is being intentionally echoed in its new use.

I can't think of any moment in ESB where the meaning of a motif from the PT would make dramatic sense.

TheBoost said:

True.

But whether you dug "Battle of Heroes" in ANH:R or not (I'm of mixed feelings), at the very least objectiviely we can agree that the meaning of that music as part of a film score (echoing Anakin/Obi's first fight) is being intentionally echoed in its new use.

I can't think of any moment in ESB where the meaning of a motif from the PT would make dramatic sense.

Oh sure, of course I understand the meaning of it, but meaning is really secondary to whether it works stlyistically/tonally. I don't think it did. My criticism of that is in no way a criticism of Ady's intentions by putting it there.

It's probably fortunate that there's no moment in Empire that could be "improved" by the inclusion of or - god forbid - replacement of original with music from the prequels.

corellian77 said:

Darth Venal said:

I think Padme's Ruminations is the best scene/new score in Episode III...

Agree with you 100% on that point Darth Venal.  I'd go so far as to say it's the best scene, visually and musically, of the entire PT.  As much as there is that needs fixing in the PT, it's moments like this one that remind me that there are still a good deal of scenes that make the PT worth watching.

Luke: There is still good in those movies... I've felt it.

Ben: They're more special effects, now, than movie... twisted and evil.

 Hehe that's very funny, although it scares me a bit that it's so true.

Although I'd have Ben say: "They're more CG, now, than man..."

Ghost said:

I wouldn't take out CG ships because those are very realistic now.  I would however get rid of the horrible CG backgrounds and shoot in real locations.  That would probably improve the overall acting to.  I like the PT music however.  

 

How about showing a cut scene of Yoda meditating and reacting to Lukes failure at Bespin?

 Also, what are the plans of showing Coruscant in the OT?  I heard that it is a possibility from members on this site.  It would be great to here from Ady on this one.

Which ones are you talking about?

corellian77 said:

Darth Venal said:

I think Padme's Ruminations is the best scene/new score in Episode III...

Agree with you 100% on that point Darth Venal.  I'd go so far as to say it's the best scene, visually and musically, of the entire PT.  As much as there is that needs fixing in the PT, it's moments like this one that remind me that there are still a good deal of scenes that make the PT worth watching.

Luke: There is still good in those movies... I've felt it.

Ben: They're more special effects, now, than movie... twisted and evil.

I have to say that was one time in my watching the prequels where I was moved emotionally.

shanerjedi said:

corellian77 said:

Darth Venal said:

I think Padme's Ruminations is the best scene/new score in Episode III...

Agree with you 100% on that point Darth Venal.  I'd go so far as to say it's the best scene, visually and musically, of the entire PT.  As much as there is that needs fixing in the PT, it's moments like this one that remind me that there are still a good deal of scenes that make the PT worth watching.

Luke: There is still good in those movies... I've felt it.

Ben: They're more special effects, now, than movie... twisted and evil.

I have to say that was one time in my watching the prequels where I was moved emotionally.

 

And me, buddy. The only time, as far as I can remember.

Correction, it was the only time I was moved in the way the movie was intending.

Which ones are you talking about?

Bingowings said that Adywan has at least considered adding Coruscant to the OT.  Probably adding more to the celebration, but who knows what he's got up his sleeve.

I just want to know what you guys might think he is thinking of doing?  Or what he could do. 

Ghost said:

Bingowings said that Adywan has at least considered adding Coruscant to the OT.  Probably adding more to the celebration, but who knows what he's got up his sleeve.

I just want to know what you guys might think he is thinking of doing?  Or what he could do. 

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Prequel-Radical-Redux-Ideas-Thread/topic/9911/

The thread is not Ady-specific, but it's a good place for prequel discussion.

How is talking about Coruscant being added to the OT, talking about the prequels?

Excellent question, Ghost.  My bad.  I must be drinking too much Duff.

I don't think Adywan will not be adding Coruscant to ESB:R.

Bingowings said:

I don't think Adywan will not be adding Coruscant to ESB:R.

So he will be then?  ;-)

Bingowings said:

I don't think Adywan will not be adding Coruscant to ESB:R.

 

Huh? So he will be adding Coruscant to ESB?!

I'm surprised Lucas didn't have Palpatine deliver the message in person just so he could add another ship landing sequence (I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Palpatine landing at the Senate to disband it in person in ANH: SE SE too).

Bingowings said:

I'm surprised Lucas didn't have Palpatine deliver the message in person just so he could add another ship landing sequence (I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Palpatine landing at the Senate to disband it in person in ANH: SE SE too).

Lucas does love his ship landing sequences!

Bingowings said:

I'm surprised Lucas didn't have Palpatine deliver the message in person just so he could add another ship landing sequence (I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Palpatine landing at the Senate to disband it in person in ANH: SE SE too).

LOL. Yes it's the attack of the landing platforms.

Doesn't Ric actually have a line in TPM pointing one out to Annie?

shanerjedi said:

LOL. Yes it's the attack of the landing platforms.

Doesn't Ric actually have a line in TPM pointing one out to Annie?

"And look over there.  Senator Palpatine is waiting for us."

I hope you enjoyed this sample of my spoken word album, "The Shield Generator's Been Hit And Other Powerful Observations."

Modern Lucas would have added an establishing shot from Coruscant of Palpatine's side of the conversation during the hologram scene.  I'm actually surprised they didn't for the DVD.

Is that such a bad idea?  

I'm surprised Lucas didn't have Palpatine deliver the message in person just so he could add another ship landing sequence (I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Palpatine landing at the Senate to disband it in person in ANH: SE SE too).

Where is this news of another SE.  You guys are driving me nuts with this talk. 

Anyway, that is a cool idea Bingowings.