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Macrovision has been around since the 80s and many, although not all commercial VHS has it. The Star Wars tapes definitely have it and that's why I can't make a back-up copy to watch and save the originals.

You can't get rid of macrovision because it's built into the hardware. You would need equipment to stabilize the signal or an older VHS recorder that predated macrovision and didn't have it built in. That's why laserdisc is so great, it's macro free! Unfortunately I couldn't afford them then, and now they are hard to find and the Star Wars Ld's have skyrocketed in value. Dang Lucas... #@%&@!!!
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What if you only charged us shipping and handling + the cost of making the disc?

Like, having zero profit? I've seen some Back to the Future: The Ride DVDs that somebody made like that. I bought one, and they never did anything to me or them.

That is, IF we can prove we already own the O-OT in some form. I don't see how that would be illegal, but then again I don't know.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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thank god i bought my star wars laserdiscs for 9.99 each back in the day...
ahhhhh
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Luke, you luck rat @#$%^&*!!!
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hehehe....
anyone wanna buy them?

hrm.. i will make the price similar..
$999

hey the digits are in the same order no?
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Throw a decimal point between the dollar sign and the first 9 or even between the first and second 9s and I've got dibs.
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Would you really give up the original trilogy for that price Luke? For any price?

A mere $1k?

How about if I offer ... a soul?

...and a bag of chee-tos, bwahahahahaha!

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You and your Cheetos.
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hrm...
to tell you the truth...
when i make backups for my LDs... im gonna a shitload of copies just in case something happens to one and then the next.. and so on....
then i may...... AHHHHHh who am i kidding, i wouldnt give those up for the world!!!

since i bought them brand new they're in unbelievably perfect/pristine condidtion...
hehehe

so the answer is no... i wouldnt get rid of them...
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You can't get rid of macrovision because it's built into the hardware.

Not true. Macrovision consists of a set of 5 white parallelograms that are inserted into the vertical blanking interval of a video signal (the black bar that appears when your vertical hold is misaligned). This mucks with the VCR's automatic gain control circuit when you try to copy a VHS tape, resulting in brightness and colour fluctuations in any attempted copy. Unfortunately, it also affected some older VCRs on playback because the AGC would kick in in playback, so a Macrovision encoded tape would exhibit the same effects during playback.
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You would need equipment to stabilize the signal or an older VHS recorder that predated macrovision and didn't have it built in. That's why laserdisc is so great, it's macro free!

In order to copy a Macrovision tape, you do need a stabiliser, but such equipment is illegal, since Macrovision patented all possible ways to defeat their copy protection @ the same time as they patented the copy-protection process. The reason LaserDisc is Macrovision-free is that LD applied its AGC circuits during playback; to encode such a product with Macrovision would have rendered the discs unwatchable, so the studios opted not to encode LDs.
Dirty little Macrovision secret: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone is not copy-protected on DVD; neither Macrovision nor ColorStripe rears its ugly little head here.

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*Strokes skrinkwrapped ROTJ "Faces" LD*

You want this.... don't you....
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Must resist ... the temptation ... of the dark side ...!
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Thanks for the clarification GundarkHunter. I'm not really a tech guy, so I guess I could have said that it was built into the video signal. Yeah, I knew that about HP, but I'm not a big fan of the books or movies though.
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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
since Macrovision patented all possible ways to defeat their copy protection @ the same time as they patented the copy-protection process.

Probably one of the smartest marketing moves I've heard of from the Hollywood realm.
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Dirty little Macrovision secret: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone is not copy-protected on DVD; neither Macrovision nor ColorStripe rears its ugly little head here.

Any particular reason why?
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Not that I know of; it's just one of those things. Apparently some of Paramount's early DVD titles aren't copy protected either.

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I figured they would be so overprotective of HP that they would put multiple forms of copyprotection on it (if that's even possible).
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It was an experiment to save money. They figured HP was so popular that people who were fans would buy it anyway and that those who wanted to bootleg would boot anyway. They were right. All DVD copyprotection has so far proved ineffective and Macrovision is particularily useless. They saved a lot on paying royalties to Macrov. I even saw HP boots in Chinatown a week before the real thing came out...
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Gundark (or anyone else), what does it cost for a company to add Macrovision to their movies?
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Not sure of actual figures, but when Macro first came out, the cost was about a nickle per tape.

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That really adds up.
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Especially at the levels that DVDs are selling.

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They've gotta be loving it. VHS never sold in the numbers that DVD does because of price. And their percentage also goes up since DVD prices are so much lower than videostore copies of VHS are. Videostores still buy their copies, if not more of them since DVDs are so much more affordable, and the general public buys their copies. MacroVision wins both ways.
"You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia'."
--Vizzini (Wallace Shawn), The Princess Bride
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