C3PX said: really sick of celeb worship. I could honestly care less about these guys, most of them seem to be scum, and it becomes even more annoying when they try to play the role of scum with bleeding hearts who want to adopt a million kids and save the world from the evils of SUVs and cow flatulence.

Polanski is a good example of this over the top celebrity worship, just look at how many people are defending him so strongely. I like how Micheal Vick, a man who mistreated dogs in a rather horrible way seemed to be considered the devil for his crimes, but yet poor old Polanski is obviously being treated quite horribly, after all, all he did was rape the hell out of minor. (Not saying I sympathize with Vick in anyway. But still, I have found that the kind of person who is willing to be cruel to animals doesn't have too far to go to be willing to be cruel to humans. Even my "evil" friends who are big into hunting are the types who absolutely hate to see an animal suffer.)

You make a very interesting observation. NO ONE defended Vick a damn bit (except one other black football player, who then had to apologize, his name eludes me).

Could it be "sad old white jew who makes Oscar winning art" vs. "tough looking black guy from the projects who plays lowly sports" in the general perception and portrayal?

Could it be that qualudes and expensive champagne use to rape a young girl has some kind of less stigma attachech than having dogs fight, because dog-fighting is a low-class (Black/Southern US) crime?

Although I'm not sure animal-fighting correlates with human cruely. There was a lot of cockfighting in the neighborhoods I grew up in, and lots of the guys who raised those birds were oddly loving to them, and generally not violent dudes.