Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist — Page 189

Wow man. That was a awesome turtle dude.

vaderios said:

yeah sweet but why?

Fett isnt like judge dredd? never reveal his face.

In an ideal world he would have been just like Dredd (no not the crap film version) and Fett would never show his (or her) face.

It would have been nice to have at least one mystery man remain a mystery.

Lucas just doesn't get Star Wars, he's like some little kid who has accidentally said something beautifully enigmatic or very funny and then spoils it by trying to do it again and again without figuring out how.

vaderios said:

Do I see lusty eyes on that turtle there?

 

-Angel

Man, do NOT tell me that turtle is from Naboo.  I can't handle another threat to my winning the Handsomest Devil From Naboo vote.

Was he wearing a Hawaiian shirt?

Don Hoe?

who the hell is Don Hoe?

I'd like to hear some others thoughts for how to show Coruscant or the Temple in the OT.

Bingowings said that Ady would consider doing something like this.  But none of this is for sure.

rcb said:

who the hell is Don Hoe?

Dude, only the most famous gardener from Hawaii.

Well however it is shown, it has to be organic to the scene and relevant. Not just putting it in for the sake of it.

Just wanted to add my 2 cents to this, since it's been brought up.

The concept of forest-dwelling, very diminutive, furry critters that are able to kick Imperial Troop's butt using primitive weapons was fine in itself....but did they have to end up looking so damned 'teddybear'-like?.... -  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/b/b7/Ewoks-endor.jpg

I just wish that more of them had the kind of facial look (and headgear) that 'Teebo' has as we first see Luke and co. surrounded by the Ewoks.  The fur that overlaps the top of his nose is a detail that I'd have liked to have seen on the majority of them too, as I was never keen on how prominent the noses look on the final Ewok costumes. -  http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/4/4f/Teebo_rotj.jpg/250px-Teebo_rotj.jpg

Maybe a bone / tooth 'adornment' sticking through a nostril on a couple of them would add a little something?

But the main thing that I reckon could make them look just a little bit more 'fiercesome' overall, would be to blacken out some of the ridiculous 'chipmunk'-like teeth in a few of them, and just give them a couple of upwardly protruding teeth from the bottom of their mouths instead.  Here's a couple of examples of something along the lines of what I mean -

http://swyattart.deviantart.com/art/Wolfman-2009-136133505

http://brainfuel.tv/postimages/king_kong.jpg

Maybe some deeper-sounding noises and dialogue would have improved things too, along the way.

I do happen to like this particular ewok illustration though, which has an 'eye-patch' added.  That would make a neat addition to one of them too. -  http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Ewok-SWGTCGAoD.jpg

darth venal how is that death project coming you know the one with star trek inspired planet destruction

didn't hear anything about a coruscant scene being put into the OT. the only time we see it in the OT is in jedi at the end.

cool five second scene, but they needed to explain the scene a little more.

Monroville said:

shanerjedi said:

Monroville said:

I say get rid of the tree traps and replace them with pits and the like.  Trees can still be a factor - Scout Walker steps into a pit; as Scout Walker's leg sinks down halfway, ground starts to cave ala a sinkhole; as the rest sinks in, the trees on either side topple over on top of the SW, crushing and blowing it up.

I still say give the Ewoks something explosive to account for getting through the Stormtrooper armor - be it explosive arrow heads and bolas. Maybe even having a scene where one Ewok raises his hand and we see retractable claws pop out and THEN he jumps on top of the Stormtrooper, followed by other Ewoks.  Blood wouldn't have to be shown, though some nice tearing and squishing sounds could be used ala AMERICAN WEREWOLF or something to get the idea across.  Remember that Koalas are pretty damn cute too, but have sharp claws for climbing trees and can get pretty pissed off.

The idea is that these are primitive creatures fighting advanced tech. Sticks and stones versus hi-tech. That was the whole point Lucas went with them instead of the original Wookies.

Just because the Ewoks are supposed to be a primitive tribe doesn't mean they can't improvise or use their intelligence to work around the technology of the Empire.  Also keep in mind that Lucas was originally set to direct APOCALYPSE NOW (until he got the go-ahead to do STAR WARS) and it is more or less his general ideas for AN working their way into STAR WARS - so the corollary can also be the Vietnamese versus the American army/ Mujahadeen versus the Russians/ Partisans versus the Nazis.

There also has to be a realistic means of the Ewoks being able to defeat the Empire - just having bows and arrows wouldn't be enough.  There would have to be something that gives the Ewoks simply the ability to win.

Thing is, these tree-dwellers are effectively at a 'stone age' level of evolvement.

As they seem to be quite 'territorial' (and ready to eat anyone!), they may have had the odd scirmish with some Imperial Troops previously, when they first arrived to build their various permanent structures such as the 'shield bunker' and 'landing platform'.

If the Ewoks did tangle with them initially in the past, they would have probably been dealt with quite ruthlessly and easily, and have had to retreat away from these bases that the more advanced humanoid incomers have set up for themselves.  The Ewoks certainly wouldn't have liked it, and would hold a grudge as some of their number may have been killed.

They can be aggressive, and in the meantime have cobbled together certain things like ground catapaults and other defenses as best they can to put up another fight again if need be, but mainly they have kept safely away from the Imperials.  When Luke and co. got caught in one of their nets, they may have thought that they'd caught a few unlucky stragglers who were part of these ruthless interlopers, and were happy to cook them up....

Although basic, the Ewoks were probably quite prepared at this point with their various defense / survival tactics and weaponry to keep the Imperials at bay as best they could, by the time that C3PO ended up giving them the impetus to have another go at them....

EyeShotFirst -  Lol, but I'm quite happy to accept a little bit of 'cuteness' when it comes to the young 'uns.

rcb said:

didn't hear anything about a coruscant scene being put into the OT. the only time we see it in the OT is in jedi at the end.

cool five second scene, but they needed to explain the scene a little more.

 Not so much a new scene but a change of emphasis on an already existing one :

adywan said:

Going a bit off topic here but i was watching ROTJ in HD tonight and i had always though that the Coruscant footage was people celebrating and pulling down the statue. i always though where the hell are the imperials and that the celebrations were too soon. But i was wrong. Upon closer inspection the crowd at the front aren't celebrating at all but are in fact a mob crowd attacking a stormtrooper. Ben Burtt totally screwed up the sound FX on this one. Should have been the sound of an angry mob and not a celebration.

I wish someone would do Assault On Plaza 13, here.

Imagine Troopers being overwhelmed and ripped to shreds by the crowds and a few desperate TIE's trying to keep control only to be shot out of the sky by the Alliance retaking the capital.

That would really be something and much more interesting than just fireworks.

It would also be a good hint for a sequel trilogy.

Picking up the pieces could turn our heroic Alliance into a government just as bad as the Empire (Lucas is nuts for ending the story with Jedi, there is still so much more story to tell).

Hi there,

I've just watched the ROTJ pyre scene, and I don't know if it's just me or what but in the shot  when the camera pans up, Luke's right hand was "painted" in black (this scene was shot months after principal shooting, so I guess they forgot to give Mark a glove), and it's kinda obvious (the contrast of the "glove" compared to the contrast of his clothes doesn't match). Sorry I don't have the DVD with me, so I can't post any pic.

 Wasn't that scene shot after principle photography simply because it was an FX shot?

Bingowings:

Picking up the pieces could turn our heroic Alliance into a government just as bad as the Empire (Lucas is nuts for ending the story with Jedi, there is still so much more story to tell).

What would be the point of that story, though? Wasn't the story we have about that already? It would just be repetition. As much as I'd probably enjoy three post-OT movies, I do accept Lucas' assertion that this is about fall and redemption. The existing six movies work together as one whole, a new trilogy couldn't fit like that. It would be lile Babylon 5 Season 5, and I can do without another one of those.