Rhikter said:
Vaderisnothayden said:
It most definitely does detract. It increases the ridiculous end of ROTS = start of ANH factor, making the universe yet smaller.
I don't think I understand what you mean by this.
So nothing changes in 20 years. Tarkin goes with the Death Star...
I think that's an interpretation you have to choose to make. It's not like it's laid out in front of you waving a Mr. Obvious cap. You can't say that, just because Tarkin took a brief stroll across a Star Destroyer's bridge whilst overseeing the Death Star's construction one afternoon, that he hung around for an extra 20 years after that.
...which should never have been in the prequels.
Yeah, I'm forced to agree.
Nor is Tarkin's appearance merely an easter egg like those things you mentioned..
You're right, I could have described it better. Easter Egg is not the right term. It is similar to an Easter Egg in that, yes, it is fan service. However, it's harmless fan services as opposed to obtrusive fan service (EX: Boba Fett in AotC, Chewbacca in RotS, or the Death Star in the PT).
Vaderisnothayden said:
It most definitely does detract. It increases the ridiculous end of ROTS = start of ANH factor, making the universe yet smaller.
Rhikter said:
I don't think I understand what you mean by this.
It's like making Chewie and Yoda best buds. It makes the universe smaller. Lucas made the status of the universe at the end of ROTS match ANH too much, allowing little room for change over 20 years. 3PO and R2 are with the same captain on the same ship and the Death Star is already well on its way and Tarkin is already hanging out with Vader. It's like 5 minutes pass between ROTS and ANH.
Vaderisnothayden:
So nothing changes in 20 years. Tarkin goes with the Death Star...
Rhikter:
I think that's an interpretation you have to choose to make. It's not like it's laid out in front of you waving a Mr. Obvious cap. You can't say that, just because Tarkin took a brief stroll across a Star Destroyer's bridge whilst overseeing the Death Star's construction one afternoon, that he hung around for an extra 20 years after that.
Yes it is laid out for you obviously. Here's Tarkin already implied to be at the center of things and hanging out with Vader 20 years before ANH, as if nothing developed in all that time. We all know he didn't just happen to take a stroll. He was put there for a reason, to make the ROTS-end situation match up with ANH. So yes, matching it up like that does imply he "hung around" for the next 20 years. And he's tied in with the Death Star being built already at the end of ROTS, which shouldn't have happened. The ROTJ Death Star took about a year to build, so it's a bit far fetched that the original would take 20 years. It makes it look like imperial technology didn't develop much in twenty years. In ANH, the Death Star was clearly intended to be cutting edge and something most people had never heard of, not something the imperials had been working on for twenty years. If the Death Star was developed so much back then, then wtf changed in 20 years?
You're right, I could have described it better. Easter Egg is not the right term. It is similar to an Easter Egg in that, yes, it is fan service. However, it's harmless fan services as opposed to obtrusive fan service (EX: Boba Fett in AotC, Chewbacca in RotS, or the Death Star in the PT).
I'm not sure it's a fan service. It may be just a Lucas service. Put in just so Lucas can feel he has one continuous tied-together story, like Hayden being put in ROTJ. Same goes for Chewbacca and the Death Star.
And if it was a fan service, it certainly wouldn't be a harmless one. It's precisely the same as putting the Death Star in the PT and tied to that.
Jeez, I wish this whole thread hadn't become about Tarkin. I started it to find out info about stuff that had nothing to do with Tarkin.