The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 118

Bingowings said:

(...) I assume that Neeson's reluctance to return complicated his grand plan, just as DiCaprio's reluctance to join on did. 

Assuming there was a grand plan.

I find it hard to believe that Jar-Jar wasn't going to play a greater role in the series until his near universal unpopularity forced Lucas to ditch him.

This And the fact that the fans asking for Boba Fett to return ended with... well, Boba Fett kinda return, only shows one thing: Lucas did not have a "grand plan".

He wanted to please himself in TPM without thinking about the fans which I think was a couragous move even if I don't like much the result. But then why try to please the fans by removing Jar Jar and adding Fett? If "the plan" was for Jar Jar to be a better character in EP 2, I think it would have been better than watching Lucas trying to "fix" the story to please everyone, resulting a mess of a movie.

vaderios said:

Ithilgore said:

Actually, one thing I must ask, is there a comparison anywhere of the lighsabers from all six films? They change every film, I know, but a side by side would be helpful.

Start Reading http://boards.theforce.net/fan_films_fan_audio_scifi_3d/b10015/22056807/p1

-Angel

Oh my...555 pages?

I think, other than the colour difference, they couldn't have a ROTJ screenshot in there because no mere screenshot could fully show the size of the lightsaber blades.

Which is everyone's favourite, of the six, by the way?

Ithilgore said:

Which is everyone's favourite, of the six, by the way?

How could anyone not vote for TPM?  The lightsabers, incidentally, are mere eye candy that distract the viewer from my insightful observations.

EyeShotFirst said:

doubleofive said:

Bringing back the rearranging of the ending sequence of RotS.  This is from the "'Explanations' of Vader" thread on SW General:

Bingowings said:

Tarkin was a Wayne Pygram in a halloween mask : 

Wow, that's not the best makeup job, and why on earth is he so old 20 years before ANH?!  Here's a picture of Peter Cushing in 1957's The Curse of Frankenstein.

He looks great!  Certainly not ancient like RotS Tarkin.  Maybe it didn't take 20 years to build the new Death Star, maybe the movie should have ended with the construction just like has been suggested!  Perhaps that is what was meant all along?

Here you go buddy. This should be really easy knowing he doesn't speak or really move much.

Well, it would be much easier if it involved him merely standing there like in those stills. But this is a moving actor. Tracking a digital head, or even face onto this character in the background would require more than just a still photo pasted onto another still photo. You'd likely have to create a 3D head digitally and then track Cushing's features onto it.

If Tarking was just standing there that would be one thing. But the character moves and walks away. Tracking hell.

IMHO, it would be better to just take him out altogether as it's just another fan service moment that doesn't show his character in any special way beyond "Look, it's Tarkin and he's on the bridge with Vader and Palpatine." Paging Ric Olie.

As I said without an actor actually playing a role, why bother?

If we could find a amateur actor who looked right and we could write some story advancing dialogue and actions which could seemlessly be dropped into the footage, Tarkin in ROTS would make sense (in fact he is such a major player in ANH you'd have thought he'd been in all of them instead of weird alien guy no1 or spooky alien lady no2).

Unless he's actually doing something it would be better to lose him.

Yeah, I'm for losing him.

I like how all six films have some of their own characters. This line of thought also makes me tilt towards losing Boba for ROTJ but that's for another thread.

This also makes me think of other unnecessary fan service characters: Jabba in TPM. Jabba in ANH:SE. Boba in ANH:SE, etc.

doubleofive said:

...we could go through a whole list of characters who sometimes literally show up to wave at the audience then disappear.

Hmmm, maybe I shouldn't complain about my limited number of lines after all.

Hey, Olis was a unique character. He was fine even if a little stilted.

shanerjedi said:

Hey, Olis was a unique character. He was fine even if a little stilted.

My brother Olis Olie?  Yeah, he was pretty wooden.  Me, I got tips from Natalie on set and I think I came off very dynamic.

Ric Olie said:

shanerjedi said:

Hey, Olis was a unique character. He was fine even if a little stilted.

My brother Olis Olie?  Yeah, he was pretty wooden.  Me, I got tips from Natalie on set and I think I came off very dynamic.

Oops. LOL Olie!

Photoshopped Nighy as Tarkin for Bingo

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Yes, I did play with the Jawbone, eyebrows ect. but it's pretty much the equivalent of what makeup could do.

Not bad, he looks enough like him to get the idea across and he is a fun actor who could have given the role the necessary coldness.

Nobody seems to care that Ewan doesn't look or even sound exactly like a younger Sir Alec.

If they were serious about putting Tarkin in the prequels they should of written a role for him and hired someone like Nighy who could have played him without OTT make-up.

Octorox said:

Photoshopped Nighy as Tarkin for Bingo

I think I should be Tarkin.  Vader and Sidious look out at the DS for so long in that shot because they don't know what they are looking at.  I could have explained it to them.

Bingowings said:

Not bad, he looks enough like him to get the idea across and he is a fun actor who could have given the role the necessary coldness.

Nobody seems to care that Ewan doesn't look or even sound exactly like a younger Sir Alec.

If they were serious about putting Tarkin in the prequels they should of written a role for him and hired someone like Nighy who could have played him without OTT make-up.

you have to admit Ewan wasn't a bad match though