Vaderisnothayden said:
rcb said:
Vaderisnothayden said:
TheBoost said:
Vaderisnothayden said:
What's your proof that I'd be saying the same thing about any other actor who took the Anakin role? You have no proof of that. Whatsoever. The situation with Hayden is not merely the situation of an actor other than Shaw taking the role. It's a situation in which an especially inappropriate actor was given the role. There are many actors I would have been happier with. So no I wouldn't necessarily have been complaining. You'd do well not to make careless statements about me that are not based on any proof.
But the part was still written and directed to be a whiny teenager in AOTC, and then a moody young man prone to crying in ROTS. Do you suppose any actor could have pulled that off in a way you would call "Vader-worthy?" Is it even possible, in ur opion?
Another actor could have done it better than Hayden. And anyway, it didn't have to be written that way. The way it was written was not consistent with the Anakin we were given in the OT.
we don't learn much about him in the OT anyways. all we hear about him is from Obi-wan.
This is all i recall:
Anakin was a great pilot, the best in the star galaxy btw. a cunning warrior and amazingly strong in the force. he was seduced by the dark side of the force and from a certain point of view, he was dead.
lastly, he new he had a child, but not a twin due to the fact that his children were hidden from him after they were born.
did i miss anything? this is all i recall.
No, we learn more about him than that. Kenobi says rather more than you mention there. And we actually MEET him. And the character Shaw played could never have been the character in AOTC and ROTS, and nor could the OT's Vader for that matter. We learn plenty about Anakin in the OT, quite enough to tell he could never be the PT character.
Except that now thanks to Lucas retcons starting in Empire Strikes Back Obi Wan is an Untrustworthy person who lies or tells his version of the truth from a certain point of view. When Star Wars 77 was shot what obi wan told luke in his hut was the absolute truth. his father was betrayed and murdered by his other star pupil vader.
I get the impression that Kenobi had two apprentices at the same time who were brothers of a sort and firends that had a falling out and vader killed his friend skywalker, so kenobi chased him down to a lava pit and dueled him and killed vader, or so he thought until he found out palpy had his body reconstructed.
Was it jealousy, pride over who was a better pupil, who the master liked better. Would be like one of those samurai or kung fu tales where the student does this.
How would the sequels come off if Vader was not the father but the man who killed lukes father and master, it is strictly a tale of revenge. No leia as the sister or vader as the father.
Not only that Vader brought dishonor onto his order the jedi knights by his actions.