cap said:
Monroville said:
Vader would be smart enough to know that eventually Luke would go to save his friend Han from Jabba, and being that Luke came from Tatooine to begin with, it would be no different than cops staking out a criminal's parents or girlfriend's home.
Vader is under explicit instructions from the Emperor not to go after Luke, but to wait for Luke to come to him.
Vader doesn't explicitly receive those instructions until the Emperor arrives at the Death Star II, which happens later in the film.
Rhikter said:
Bingowings said:
Also, do you think it would work to put the Luke on Dagobah scenes at the beginning of the movie. It would make the whole Luke a master Jedi thing more believable.
I must respectfully disagree.
Come RotJ, the last time we saw Luke, he was licking his wounds, so to speak, on the medical frigate at the end of ESB. By starving the audience of Luke's appearance for so long in the begging of the movie and teasing them with dialogue about him spoken by other characters, you build anticipation. People will be wondering, "Oh, man where's Luke? I wanna see Luke? Why isn't Luke here?" It makes the sudden appearance of this wiser, stronger, more mature Luke Skywalker/Jedi Knight - who is nothing like the beaten and bruised teen from the end of ESB - all the more powerful.
Those aren't my words, Ghost was asking that question.
The hologram message blows that anyway and the results of keeping the shadowy first physical appearence (which is admittedly cool) is that Yoda's death and Luke's training become laughably stupid. Besides it is just an temporary thing, he goes from hooded powerful Jedi to struggling hero again at the push of a trapdoor button and doesn't return there for pretty much the rest of the movie.
Other than being a rage fueled nearly Sith when he's beating up dad (see Obi-Wan in TPM), the next nearest Luke gets to being like old Ben is when he is telling his friends to hand over their weapons to a bunch of hungry bear people intent on having a barbecue.
Luke should be a Jedi Knight but he still has a long way to go before he can call himself a Jedi Master.
The real hanging storyline from ESB isn't what's Luke doing but what's going to happen to Han.
At the end of ESB we know Luke got away and is planning to rescue Han and it makes sense after having Yoda's teachings about patience underlined to him in the strongest way with his pointless attempt to rescue his friends, the logical first step is not to have him rush into rescuing Han but to have him rescue Han as a fully trained Jedi Knight.